Cloudron makes it easy to run web apps like WordPress, Nextcloud, GitLab on your server. Find out more or install now.


Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Bookmarks
  • Search
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

Cloudron Forum

Apps | Demo | Docs | Install
  1. Cloudron Forum
  2. SearXNG
  3. Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?

Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved SearXNG
20 Posts 7 Posters 3.4k Views 7 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • marcusquinnM Offline
      marcusquinnM Offline
      marcusquinn
      wrote on last edited by
      #1

      My go-to test search phrase is "hello". And I have Google & Bing enabled as options, but results are very sparse:

      aeba87ed-c97b-41d9-93d9-c94613f76f2b-image.png

      4ad48034-028d-485a-96a2-06c21f5b78e2-image.png

      Whereas Qwant.com by comparison gets a lot more:

      cbab6f13-092c-42ad-ae40-45cee5645ccb-image.png

      And searx.org similarly comes back with a lot more too:

      862f6764-00f5-432b-b02d-f4f1a001796d-image.png

      Searx on Cloudron last updated 6 months ago - am I missing something?

      Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
      Development https://brandlight.org
      Life https://marcusquinn.com

      jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
      1
      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

        My go-to test search phrase is "hello". And I have Google & Bing enabled as options, but results are very sparse:

        aeba87ed-c97b-41d9-93d9-c94613f76f2b-image.png

        4ad48034-028d-485a-96a2-06c21f5b78e2-image.png

        Whereas Qwant.com by comparison gets a lot more:

        cbab6f13-092c-42ad-ae40-45cee5645ccb-image.png

        And searx.org similarly comes back with a lot more too:

        862f6764-00f5-432b-b02d-f4f1a001796d-image.png

        Searx on Cloudron last updated 6 months ago - am I missing something?

        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
        jdaviescoates
        wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
        #2

        @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

        I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

        It's a shame because when it works it works great.

        Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

        https://docs.searxng.org/
        https://github.com/searxng/searxng
        https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

        marcusquinnM L 3 Replies Last reply
        2
        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

          I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

          It's a shame because when it works it works great.

          Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

          https://docs.searxng.org/
          https://github.com/searxng/searxng
          https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

          marcusquinnM Offline
          marcusquinnM Offline
          marcusquinn
          wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
          #3

          @jdaviescoates It's strange because searx.org works nicely. Maybe just use that and forget about self-hosted for this one?

          Of all the search engines I've tried, qwant.com is my daily-driver and has been for some time. There's quirks and things I don't like, and ublockorigin.com is essential on all browsers for removing ads, but of all the meta search engines, I find Qwant has all the results I need, and the Maps is perhaps the better of all the alternatives.

          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
          Development https://brandlight.org
          Life https://marcusquinn.com

          jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
          2
          • ruihildtR Offline
            ruihildtR Offline
            ruihildt
            wrote on last edited by
            #4

            Not Searx related, but I encourage you all to test Kagi.

            It's a paid search engine, business model based only on subscription, promising privacy first and customer focused, as they have no other incentive than making their users happy.

            It's been my default search engine for 3 months and I'm very happy with the results, much less spammy results, favors websites with less tracking/ads, focus partly on smaller websites/blogs and some very nice customization and details.

            I have no financial incentive, just very happy about spending 10$/month on it.

            marcusquinnM scookeS 2 Replies Last reply
            1
            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @jdaviescoates It's strange because searx.org works nicely. Maybe just use that and forget about self-hosted for this one?

              Of all the search engines I've tried, qwant.com is my daily-driver and has been for some time. There's quirks and things I don't like, and ublockorigin.com is essential on all browsers for removing ads, but of all the meta search engines, I find Qwant has all the results I need, and the Maps is perhaps the better of all the alternatives.

              jdaviescoatesJ Offline
              jdaviescoatesJ Offline
              jdaviescoates
              wrote on last edited by
              #5

              @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

              @jdaviescoates It's strange because searx.org works nicely.

              My Cloudron-hosted searx sometimes works nicely too. But then just doesn't. I may try installing on a few different hosts to see if it's an IP thing...

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • ruihildtR ruihildt

                Not Searx related, but I encourage you all to test Kagi.

                It's a paid search engine, business model based only on subscription, promising privacy first and customer focused, as they have no other incentive than making their users happy.

                It's been my default search engine for 3 months and I'm very happy with the results, much less spammy results, favors websites with less tracking/ads, focus partly on smaller websites/blogs and some very nice customization and details.

                I have no financial incentive, just very happy about spending 10$/month on it.

                marcusquinnM Offline
                marcusquinnM Offline
                marcusquinn
                wrote on last edited by
                #6

                @ruihildt I do like the look and idea of Kagi, and the Orion Browser 👍 Fine for personal, would be a bit of a conversation to have to roll out to 100 business users, most of which will just ignore it and change their home page to Google as if it were 2002 and do no evil was obviously not a binding promise.

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

                1 Reply Last reply
                2
                • ruihildtR ruihildt

                  Not Searx related, but I encourage you all to test Kagi.

                  It's a paid search engine, business model based only on subscription, promising privacy first and customer focused, as they have no other incentive than making their users happy.

                  It's been my default search engine for 3 months and I'm very happy with the results, much less spammy results, favors websites with less tracking/ads, focus partly on smaller websites/blogs and some very nice customization and details.

                  I have no financial incentive, just very happy about spending 10$/month on it.

                  scookeS Offline
                  scookeS Offline
                  scooke
                  wrote on last edited by scooke
                  #7

                  @ruihildt Hi, I'm signing up at Kagi as I type, and they ask how I heard about them. Do you mind if I give them the url to your post here? Otherwise I'm just going to say, "Cloudron forums".

                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

                  ruihildtR 1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • scookeS scooke

                    @ruihildt Hi, I'm signing up at Kagi as I type, and they ask how I heard about them. Do you mind if I give them the url to your post here? Otherwise I'm just going to say, "Cloudron forums".

                    ruihildtR Offline
                    ruihildtR Offline
                    ruihildt
                    wrote on last edited by ruihildt
                    #8

                    @scooke Feel free to link here. It's public. 🙂

                    F 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • ruihildtR ruihildt

                      @scooke Feel free to link here. It's public. 🙂

                      F Offline
                      F Offline
                      freediver
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #9

                      @ruihildt Thanks for the mention! (Kagi Founder here)

                      @scooke We actually read 'where did you find us' , thanks for referencing it 🙂

                      @marcusquinn We are working on a team plan right now. It will be usage based (not by user, you will be able to add unlimited users to your team, and pay only for what they use - and users searching are usually users being productive).

                      nebulonN marcusquinnM 2 Replies Last reply
                      5
                      • F freediver

                        @ruihildt Thanks for the mention! (Kagi Founder here)

                        @scooke We actually read 'where did you find us' , thanks for referencing it 🙂

                        @marcusquinn We are working on a team plan right now. It will be usage based (not by user, you will be able to add unlimited users to your team, and pay only for what they use - and users searching are usually users being productive).

                        nebulonN Offline
                        nebulonN Offline
                        nebulon
                        Staff
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #10

                        @freediver wow nice! I am also recently a very happy kagi customer. I was looking for a solid search engine which I can plainly pay for, for a long time, so thanks for all the hard work!

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        1
                        • F freediver

                          @ruihildt Thanks for the mention! (Kagi Founder here)

                          @scooke We actually read 'where did you find us' , thanks for referencing it 🙂

                          @marcusquinn We are working on a team plan right now. It will be usage based (not by user, you will be able to add unlimited users to your team, and pay only for what they use - and users searching are usually users being productive).

                          marcusquinnM Offline
                          marcusquinnM Offline
                          marcusquinn
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #11

                          @freediver Amazing - all fans here for what you're doing! Kagi Maps (beta) looks fantastic!

                          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                          Development https://brandlight.org
                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • marcusquinnM Offline
                            marcusquinnM Offline
                            marcusquinn
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #12

                            Tip for anyone wanting to add a new search engine to Firefox. Right-click in the address bar in the space after the address...

                            fbf176b8-500b-45e3-a6f1-387b648df7e2-image.png

                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            2
                            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                              @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                              I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                              It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                              Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                              https://docs.searxng.org/
                              https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                              https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

                              L Offline
                              L Offline
                              LoudLemur
                              wrote on last edited by LoudLemur
                              #13

                              @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                              @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                              I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                              It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                              Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                              https://docs.searxng.org/
                              https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                              https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

                              You are great, @jdaviescoates !

                              Why did they fork the Searx project to create SearxNG? Is it explained somewhere, and why the NG in the name?brave_ZsRbuZwAVj.jpg

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              2
                              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                                I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                                It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                                Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                                https://docs.searxng.org/
                                https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                                https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

                                marcusquinnM Offline
                                marcusquinnM Offline
                                marcusquinn
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #14

                                @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                                I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                                It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                                Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                                https://docs.searxng.org/
                                https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                                https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

                                I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                Development https://brandlight.org
                                Life https://marcusquinn.com

                                jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                1
                                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                  @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                  @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                                  I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                                  It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                                  Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                                  https://docs.searxng.org/
                                  https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                                  https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

                                  I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                                  jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                                  jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                                  jdaviescoates
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #15

                                  @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                  I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                                  Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                                  In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                                  L 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                    I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                                    Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                                    In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

                                    L Offline
                                    L Offline
                                    LoudLemur
                                    wrote on last edited by LoudLemur
                                    #16

                                    @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                    @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                    I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                                    Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                                    In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

                                    I have had something similar reported. It might be possible to get things working again by systematically disabling some of the search engines. If you use brave to try a search, youmight be able to see an error message at the top right indicating which engine is not working.

                                    I t seems that the URL isn't correctly figured anymore. Perhaps they changed their requirements. Also, try clicking on one of the tabs at the toop, e.g. General, and see if that brings in the results.

                                    marcusquinnM 1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                                      jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                                      jdaviescoates
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #17

                                      Out of interest I just uninstalled and re-installed (on a different domain) searx to see what would happen:

                                      First search: No joy. But spotted a timeout error for one of the engines (Brave). Turned that off. Worked. Let's see how long it lasts...

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • L LoudLemur

                                        @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                        @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                        I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                                        Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                                        In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

                                        I have had something similar reported. It might be possible to get things working again by systematically disabling some of the search engines. If you use brave to try a search, youmight be able to see an error message at the top right indicating which engine is not working.

                                        I t seems that the URL isn't correctly figured anymore. Perhaps they changed their requirements. Also, try clicking on one of the tabs at the toop, e.g. General, and see if that brings in the results.

                                        marcusquinnM Offline
                                        marcusquinnM Offline
                                        marcusquinn
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #18

                                        @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

                                        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                        Development https://brandlight.org
                                        Life https://marcusquinn.com

                                        L 1 Reply Last reply
                                        1
                                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                          @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

                                          L Offline
                                          L Offline
                                          LoudLemur
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #19

                                          @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                          @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

                                          I hadn't used Searx for a long while because it basically just dogpiles proprietary search engine results. What I found fun recently was that it had increased the number of search engines which it supports by default. This includes Qwant and also e.g. Mojeek and Gigablast.

                                          I think these providers don't like Searx using them and they are deliberately screwing things. Can you remember back in the day with Scroogle? It was the first attempt to proxy google search and after it became popular, Google started making it difficult to get it to work.

                                          marcusquinnM 1 Reply Last reply
                                          1
                                          • L LoudLemur

                                            @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                                            @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

                                            I hadn't used Searx for a long while because it basically just dogpiles proprietary search engine results. What I found fun recently was that it had increased the number of search engines which it supports by default. This includes Qwant and also e.g. Mojeek and Gigablast.

                                            I think these providers don't like Searx using them and they are deliberately screwing things. Can you remember back in the day with Scroogle? It was the first attempt to proxy google search and after it became popular, Google started making it difficult to get it to work.

                                            marcusquinnM Offline
                                            marcusquinnM Offline
                                            marcusquinn
                                            wrote on last edited by
                                            #20

                                            @LoudLemur Yeah, also Whoogle works pretty well.

                                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                            Development https://brandlight.org
                                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

                                            1 Reply Last reply
                                            0
                                            Reply
                                            • Reply as topic
                                            Log in to reply
                                            • Oldest to Newest
                                            • Newest to Oldest
                                            • Most Votes


                                              • Login

                                              • Don't have an account? Register

                                              • Login or register to search.
                                              • First post
                                                Last post
                                              0
                                              • Categories
                                              • Recent
                                              • Tags
                                              • Popular
                                              • Bookmarks
                                              • Search