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Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?

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  • scookeS scooke

    @ruihildt Hi, I'm signing up at Kagi as I type, and they ask how I heard about them. Do you mind if I give them the url to your post here? Otherwise I'm just going to say, "Cloudron forums".

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    ruihildt
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    @scooke Feel free to link here. It's public. 🙂

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    • ruihildtR ruihildt

      @scooke Feel free to link here. It's public. 🙂

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      @ruihildt Thanks for the mention! (Kagi Founder here)

      @scooke We actually read 'where did you find us' , thanks for referencing it 🙂

      @marcusquinn We are working on a team plan right now. It will be usage based (not by user, you will be able to add unlimited users to your team, and pay only for what they use - and users searching are usually users being productive).

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      • F freediver

        @ruihildt Thanks for the mention! (Kagi Founder here)

        @scooke We actually read 'where did you find us' , thanks for referencing it 🙂

        @marcusquinn We are working on a team plan right now. It will be usage based (not by user, you will be able to add unlimited users to your team, and pay only for what they use - and users searching are usually users being productive).

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        @freediver wow nice! I am also recently a very happy kagi customer. I was looking for a solid search engine which I can plainly pay for, for a long time, so thanks for all the hard work!

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          @ruihildt Thanks for the mention! (Kagi Founder here)

          @scooke We actually read 'where did you find us' , thanks for referencing it 🙂

          @marcusquinn We are working on a team plan right now. It will be usage based (not by user, you will be able to add unlimited users to your team, and pay only for what they use - and users searching are usually users being productive).

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          marcusquinn
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          @freediver Amazing - all fans here for what you're doing! Kagi Maps (beta) looks fantastic!

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            Tip for anyone wanting to add a new search engine to Firefox. Right-click in the address bar in the space after the address...

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

              I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

              It's a shame because when it works it works great.

              Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

              https://docs.searxng.org/
              https://github.com/searxng/searxng
              https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

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              @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

              @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

              I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

              It's a shame because when it works it works great.

              Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

              https://docs.searxng.org/
              https://github.com/searxng/searxng
              https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

              You are great, @jdaviescoates !

              Why did they fork the Searx project to create SearxNG? Is it explained somewhere, and why the NG in the name?brave_ZsRbuZwAVj.jpg

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                https://docs.searxng.org/
                https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

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                @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                https://docs.searxng.org/
                https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

                I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                  @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                  @marcusquinn I find it works great some times and then just doesn't work at others, but I've never really investigated it any further than that (and the working/ not working status changes without any action on my part).

                  I tend to use my Searx for a while until it stops working, then switch to DuckDuckGo or something for a while and then I'll forget about Searx for a while and then get reminded of it again (like right now) and change back to it for a while until it stops working again... although I've just tested mine and it's currently not working so wont be making the switch again just yet.

                  It's a shame because when it works it works great.

                  Can't help wondering if we'd have more luck with SearXNG

                  https://docs.searxng.org/
                  https://github.com/searxng/searxng
                  https://github.com/searxng/searxng-docker

                  I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

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                  @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                  I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                  Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                  In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                    I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                    Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                    In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

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                    @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                    @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                    I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                    Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                    In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

                    I have had something similar reported. It might be possible to get things working again by systematically disabling some of the search engines. If you use brave to try a search, youmight be able to see an error message at the top right indicating which engine is not working.

                    I t seems that the URL isn't correctly figured anymore. Perhaps they changed their requirements. Also, try clicking on one of the tabs at the toop, e.g. General, and see if that brings in the results.

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                      Out of interest I just uninstalled and re-installed (on a different domain) searx to see what would happen:

                      First search: No joy. But spotted a timeout error for one of the engines (Brave). Turned that off. Worked. Let's see how long it lasts...

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        @jdaviescoates said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                        @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                        I missed this somehow. Gave it a try and does seem to actually work. Interface is still retro/janky, but just working is a quantum leap.

                        Yeah, for some reason my searx instance just hasn't worked for yonks now.

                        In the past after I stopped using it for a while it would randomly start working great again, but it's been ages now and still no search results 😞

                        I have had something similar reported. It might be possible to get things working again by systematically disabling some of the search engines. If you use brave to try a search, youmight be able to see an error message at the top right indicating which engine is not working.

                        I t seems that the URL isn't correctly figured anymore. Perhaps they changed their requirements. Also, try clicking on one of the tabs at the toop, e.g. General, and see if that brings in the results.

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                        @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

                        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                        Development https://brandlight.org
                        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                          @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

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                          @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                          @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

                          I hadn't used Searx for a long while because it basically just dogpiles proprietary search engine results. What I found fun recently was that it had increased the number of search engines which it supports by default. This includes Qwant and also e.g. Mojeek and Gigablast.

                          I think these providers don't like Searx using them and they are deliberately screwing things. Can you remember back in the day with Scroogle? It was the first attempt to proxy google search and after it became popular, Google started making it difficult to get it to work.

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                            @marcusquinn said in Is Searx actually working for everyone on Cloudron?:

                            @LoudLemur Honestly, I've just become accustomed to using Qwant.com now, tried them all, and also really like Mojeek.com, but Searx just asks too much and offers to little to get a comparable utility. Ain't free if it costs me more time 🙂

                            I hadn't used Searx for a long while because it basically just dogpiles proprietary search engine results. What I found fun recently was that it had increased the number of search engines which it supports by default. This includes Qwant and also e.g. Mojeek and Gigablast.

                            I think these providers don't like Searx using them and they are deliberately screwing things. Can you remember back in the day with Scroogle? It was the first attempt to proxy google search and after it became popular, Google started making it difficult to get it to work.

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                            @LoudLemur Yeah, also Whoogle works pretty well.

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                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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