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Any issues with including NetData on the root server and as an app add-on?

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    cvachery
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    Just to let you know that I updated my package to add the sendmail package (to enable email notification) and bump the upstream version to 1.44.3

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      #62

      @cvachery In your package, do you see the (cloud) Login button on the top right after one logs in with ProxyAuth ?

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        Yes I do, I did not succeed to get rid of all the cloud bits and pieces as it is pretty much all over the software here and there.
        I tried this doc but was unsuccessful

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          @cvachery ok, thanks. The whole thing is quite confusing because you see the Login button after logging in 😕

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            I know but that's because the cloudron login is just the proxyauth but that login button is for the cloud. There is no auth by default to access to webui (hence why I use the proxy auth)
            The whole netdata UX is made to make you move to the cloud 😞
            Trying to clean that button (bumping to 1.45.0 at the same time)

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              @cvachery I am trying to get the netdata package out at https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/netdata-app/ . Just comparing yours and the one that @vladimir-d has. Will make an unstable, but the netdata UX is not ideal, hmm.

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                Just tried the current state of this package and mostly this seems to work. There is a ton of graphs and all, no clue who needs all this, but looks good for sure.

                Before we get this out, can anyone here answer how this works in terms of public/private pages? By default all metrics are public and one can only hide them when logging into their https://app.netdata.cloud offering and binding that to the self-hosted one. Although actually https://app.netdata.cloud is essentially the same as the self-hosted. Further status links point to the upstream offering. All in all this looks a bit like the selfhosting is just an afterthought, but maybe I am mistaken, so anyone with more clarity on this, please shed some light on the topic.

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                  Just tried the current state of this package and mostly this seems to work. There is a ton of graphs and all, no clue who needs all this, but looks good for sure.

                  Before we get this out, can anyone here answer how this works in terms of public/private pages? By default all metrics are public and one can only hide them when logging into their https://app.netdata.cloud offering and binding that to the self-hosted one. Although actually https://app.netdata.cloud is essentially the same as the self-hosted. Further status links point to the upstream offering. All in all this looks a bit like the selfhosting is just an afterthought, but maybe I am mistaken, so anyone with more clarity on this, please shed some light on the topic.

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                  @nebulon https://forum.cloudron.io/post/85552

                  as far as I know the agents have a GUI unsecured, but when installing on Cloudron you can App proxy them to secure. Then you can default "connect" them to the Netdata Cloud or change the config to "connect" them to your own central Agent that is "collecting" the data streams from itself and the connected agents.

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                    So the app is itself a dashboard and with a default node? How will authenticating other nodes into the app work, if it is proxied via the Cloudron proxy?

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                      By default every agent can dispaly a dashboard for itself. You can however stream your metrics to a parent node and deactivate the web interface in the children nodes.
                      This is the way I'm using it at the moment, my parent node is on Cloudron and all my children stream their metrics to it. The auth is done with an API key ( doc here )
                      I'm not sure actually how my metrics are reaching netdata behind the ProxyAuth. Maybe they stream as UDP and the proxy is only for TCP?

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