After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won.
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@LoudLemur
We pay a good amount of money for a service that checks our IPs and helps us intervene in those cases.
But for gmail, we just have some backup IP to use for all the outbound mail that goes to google, we have invested some time to develop the ability to select the origin IP to use based on the destination mail server.That's the point I think, self-host is good for a private, or max a small SMB, but not for a customer that needs mail to work to make money.
The investment that MooCloud has to do, to be in line (I'm not even trying to say "better") with the standard is pretty big, and can only be sustainable if you have customer to payit. -
@LoudLemur https://mxtoolbox.com/ and https://www.warmupinbox.com/ can help.
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@marcusquinn
Exactly you need to use external solution to solve those issues, and then is not self hosted 100%, MX toolbox is really simple, it doesn't manage abuse report to your IPs or dmarc.(update me if something changed lately on that). -
Thanks to the people here, this thread has become very interesting. It makes Zme wonder what Free Software tools are available now and best placed to be able to replace email. This change of direction might be worth a new thread of its own.
Zeronet have ZeroMail. I have used it a little bit and it worked, but only for very light use. I think something that does not require a centralized authority issuing the address is the way forward.
Messaging on Session using Lokinet might be the way forward, but it is very niche now, and a long way from corporate use...
Any ideas?
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@LoudLemur said in After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won.:
@necrevistonnezr said in After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won.:
@humptydumpty said in After self-hosting my email for twenty-three years I have thrown in the towel. The oligopoly has won.:
Well, I host Cloudron in my home office with dynamic IPs on a NUC. Outbound email gateway is my very privacy conscious mail provider mailbox.org. For a small family, that’s more than sufficient.
This is the coolest way to run Cloudron, the way that, I think, could bring Cloudron to the masses.
If you ever have time and the inclination and could create some sort of "how-to" video explaining how to solve the tricky parts of accomplishing your setup, I think that could be massive for Cloudron. @girish @nebulon what do you think?
The cool thing: it’s all already building into cloudron! Dynamic IPs DNS (in the network settings) and support for email gateways.
The only thing you have to do on your side is to report your current IP regularly to the domain provider. This happens via ddclient, most commercial routers have a similar function build-in.