@compotter yes selecting a mailbox for catchall that is located on a different domain would be nice.

Instead of checking all these mailboxes I worked around the issue by added a rule in Roundcube to forward all mails to this "catch all inbox" to my actual inbox.

@vladimir I can also recommend sending a test mail to https://mail-tester.com to check if you have setup the DNS records required for the external email server correctly.

For completion sake: https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#restore-email

@saikarthik I created a new category now - https://forum.cloudron.io/category/107/dolibarr ? Can you ask there. I haven't used Dolibarr yet since @eric is still packaging it and it's not completed yet, I think.

Personally, I'm migrating away from GMail, and wouldn't recommend it, although I appreciate it's difficult to cut those ties for some.

Another possible solution: would be to forward to any other email service that does support POP3 but doesn't have spam filtering. That way, you're not sending email to GMail, it's pulling and filtering. Appreciate that a 3 mailserver setup is odd though, but then so is GMail.

I think it's worth just having a POP3 post in Feature Requests though, purely as a way to allow for any other 3rd party email someone wanted to do this with. I can see privacy advantages in POP3 as well, if one didn't want emails stored on their Cloudron and just locally. I wouldn't like to see POP3 ignored as without advantage, when if privacy is a concern, that could be a legitimate use-case.

I see. Maybe that's because mailtrain adds unsubscribe headers in the email header etc. I don't really know of any other bulk mailer software. Are you able to contact the support of turbo mailer and ask them if they support STARTLS at all?

@christiaan For nextcloud, the calendar app does send your reminders by email for events (there are some options when you create an event). But if you don't care about that, you can ignore the PTR warning.

@girish I think the key point here is that simplelogin is self-hostable!

https://github.com/simple-login/app#self-hosting

So we can have this cake and eat it too!

I'll add it to the app request list here.

Aye, probably better to have a ui in box to enable/disable and whitelist domains. I don't have a corporate customer waiting for that, I just thought I left the suggestion here for the future, maybe it could be added when something else in that department is touched.

In some ways, I think this is what POP is for (I think) but we don't support it.

@Vladimir Can you check /home/yellowtent/boxdata/mail/vmail on the server? There is a directory for each mailbox. If you enter the mailbox, there is a sieve directory. You can just delete the entire directory to remove the rules and then restart the mail server, in case dovecot had cached it.

(You can also do a quick grep on the address in the above directory to see if it's referenced anywhere else).

@Bortseb Yeah, best way to get familiar eh! Always worth making up your own mind, I just added in case you were a disappointed once you did get connected and to be aware what I think at least is worth your time on setups, as I know from years of System Admin for a team of about 50, they can often only be as quick or organised as the tools we give them.

I have added this in the 6.0 roadmap to be configurable.

@girish said in Spam filter doesn't always learn:

rspamd is better here but it does require more resources

rspamd require less training to work, and less complicated configuration setup.
but without clamav is pretty much equal to spamassasin with a little bit of training, and tweak.

AntiSpam in general are really havy to run, and complicated, if you take a plesk or cpanel antispam out of the box are similar to cloudron on.
The only solution is to implement a more complete stack in general, with blacklist, signature, DNSBL in a collaborative way, so that every cloudron can report spam and especially ham.

@imc67 if u want to manually improve you can add barracuda (b.barracudacentral.org) DNSBL to start. (this guide should work; backup your config file before edit it).
The issue of cloudron are mostly resources, because an efficient antispam will take to much ram, and cpu, so we need to find alternative solution, and my company is try to help cloudron to improve on this.

This is implemented in Cloudron 6 ! https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3205/what-s-coming-in-6-0-take-2/99

yup, i have pushed the change for next wekan release.

Thank you @girish, this worked for me too

@girish Could a rule be setup in roundcube / other IMAP client to move inbox emails after a set time? I never really messed around with this idea but I could see it coming in handy for large environments that cannot afford huge data storage.

Indeed, there was a missing normalization. I have fixed it for the next release.

OK i have send an E-Mail