What's coming in 8.0 (was 7.6)

[girish]

The feedback has been that the releases are too long . So, let's get back to quicker releases

This release we want to just really fix backups.

• Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
• Show backup/restore progress
• Add Hetzner Storage Box backend (based on rsync)
• Multiple Backup Destinations
• Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
• Improve app repair workflow
• Upgrade MongoDB to 5.x (part of 7.6)

If we have time, maybe we look into testing out a Restic backend.

[lukas]

@girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

Multiple Backup Destinations

very good, can't wait! Would be good to choose which Applications should be backuped to other destination.

[imc67]

@girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

IRestic backend.

Can’t wait for this (kind of a) solution as + 200GB every day is taking too long and too inefficient

[robi]

Look into memory usage/limits during backups as well, as that caused some issues recently.

[marcusquinn]

@girish I think you already acknowledged the blocking of all other app activities when a backup is running. That would be a huge time saver for me

[alwynispat]

More backup retention options, even better, customizable, per app.

[necrevistonnezr]

@girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

If we have time, maybe we look into testing out a Restic backend.

In combination with rclone - hard to beat and covering almost any online storage

[odie]

The ability to "install app from backup". Now, you can only restore an already installed app from a backup. It would be really valuable to be able to just install an app from an older backup without having to think about versioning etc.

[girish]

@odie Is this different from clone - https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#clone-app ? Or are you referring to installing an app with backup from one server into another?

[alwynispat]

@girish I think what @odie would like to do is to restore from a backup which came from a different server.

[p44]

@girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

Add Hetzner Storage Box backend (based on rsync)

This seems to be very interesting feature...

Waiting also for native multiple backup locations ️

[imc67]

@girish it would also be very useful to have on 'app level / settings' an option to keep "global backup schedule" or use a "app backup schedule". This way you can make for some apps (like data sensitive apps like CRM) an hourly backup schedule where for a +200GB Nextcloud you can keep the daily "global schedule".

[marcusquinn]

@imc67 By the time you need hourly backups, you're probably knocking on the database replication door.

[odie]

@girish Yes, it’s different. Many times I’ve thought about removing an app, or mess about with configurations etc. from an app that is running ok, but for some reason I want to change.

One scenario is this example. Let’s say I wanted to create an offline backup of articles in my “pocket” account (getpocket.com). I could use Wallabag for this purpose, import everything and leave it running. But let’s say I don’t need this running persistently, I just want to keep an old backup lying around. With the functionality I ask for, I could simply backup the current Wallabag installation, put the backup in cold storage, and then 5 years later, I could simply install directly from this backup.

A second scenario; if I want to play around with loads of different settings for an app, I could simply take a backup first, mess about however much without worrying whether I destroyed something, and then uninstall the version I broke due to my fiddling about, and simply reinstall from the old backup.

A third scenario; when Cloudron offers upgrades that break functionality, I could simply backup the app containing the old version and all my settings and data, and then upgrade knowing full well that I kept an old, working copy in case something I needed was broken.

The perfect implementation of this “install app from backup” would be to be able to browse old backup files like “an app store”, and install in the same way (ie. choosing a new location for an old backuped version etc). But that’s perhaps asking for too much?

[robi]

The import should install the appropriate version of the app automatically.

[estudios507]

• Please eliminate the All Mail feature or give the chance to turn it off.
• Disable the automatic Install or Activation of SMTP default pligin. I use WP Mail SMTP, the default one create conflicts

[girish]

@estudios507 yes, we will add an option to disable All Mail in the next release. As for the WP Email, can you not disable it - https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/#mail-from-address ?

[marcusquinn]

@estudios507 2. I guess a WordPress app specific request? I used to use WP Mail SMTP, but switched to Fluent SMTP. Sorry to hijack, and if you have your reasons, just thought you might also like to the same reasons.

[3246]

@girish et al what happened to the Wireguard app? :pleadingface:

Re. https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9180/what-s-coming-in-7-5/2?_=1694469098213

[girish]

@3246 have to move it to next version. The backups stuff is more urgent.