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Hi @LoudLemur
Thanks

For those who want to dig "AI assisted packaging", here is how I proceeded

• I use Zed Editor which has a nice prompt library tool allowing prompt nesting (prompts in prompts. Sins Zed last "agentic" update, you need to use what they call "text thread" to have this feature/behaviour
• I have a main big prompt with all main specificities of packaging (Cloudron documentation mainly)
• I have smaller prompts about addon to be loaded only when needed
• And then I made specific prompts loading target app source files, and the same for example of packaged apps to guide the AI

I did this in 2024. This could be largely improved in 2025 with more agentic behaviour to let the AI fetch the context it needs

Hi

I wanted to learn cloudron app packaging, and I am actually working on an AI assistant to generate Clourdon packages bases on source repository. Ibuilt a bunch of nested prompts (with Zed editor which is really cool for this) and had encouraging result so far.

I could generate a working package for Librechat which is requested here.

Sources are here : https://gitlab.com/vlebert/librechat-cloudron

The app can start in Cloudron but I have 2 issues

• SSO with OIDC don't work. It is documented here but I can't make it work.
• There is a sub-app called RAG-API used to interact with uploaded document and which require pgvector extention. How to use this extension in a cloudron package ?
  Documentation says vector extension is "whitelisted" : https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons/#postgresql
  But I can't create this extention in postgres :
  
  Should it be installed with apt in the Dockerfile ? I made a few attempts but no success...

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Hi @canadaduane
I think I did have a working app at the end but not 100% features. And then I didn't had time (and interest) to finish the setup
If somebody is interested I can share my past work but I guess litellm have change quite a bit since

@canadaduane
Yes no problem

Wow thanks @nebulon . I think it would have been necessary one day or another with the current AI hype.

By the way I'd be glad to share my "cloudron packaging prompt engineering" techniques some when. I'll make a second try with another app, I am thinking appsmith

Hi

I had an issue last week with an application (Baserow) :

• The app was stopped
• I tried to add a domain alias in "location" setting

After that the app was stuck in Error state, with error Error : Inactive - Error getting IP of redis-184ad096-6567-4511-b1a6-b40814b54793 service.

I tried everything but couldn't restart the app. I had to install a new baserow instance and restore from a backup, delete the old one and change the domain again while the app was running.

Today I did a new test to confirm the bug, even with a simple app (LAMP server). And I could reproduce 100% :

• Install LAMP
• Stop App
• Add a domain alias
• -> App stuck in Error mode Error : Inactive - Error getting IP of redis-184ad096-6567-4511-b1a6-b40814b54793 service

Is there a technique to reboot such stopped App ? I could be very dangerous in production ?

And maybe this issue could be adressed ?

Cheers

Yes, it was not on purpose. Nonetheless current behaviour is dangerous if you don't know the technique to restart your stucked app

This error occurs with default engine (psycopg2)

(psycopg2.OperationalError) connection to server at "**********" (151.80.10.***), port 5432 failed: could not open certificate file "/root/.postgresql/postgresql.crt": Permission denied

(Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/14/e3q8)

I think it is a cloudron app issue

You can workaround using sqlalchemy.

Hi

I need to be able to add apt dependencies to my n8n app. I know that npm packages can be added through an environment variable, but is it possible to add external apt packages to be used with n8n (with bash command n8n node)?

I have another n8n custom install on a dedicated VPS and I cannot migrate my workflows because of this issue.

On this other custom install, I do 2 things I cannot replicate on cloudron :

• Run bash command using external binaries
• Run bash command using external docker images (for example pandoc which is a pain to install without docker)

One workaround I imagine would be to ssh my host server (the cloudron host machine) and use my commands here. But ideally I would like not to pollute my host which only runs Cloudron.

Is it possible somehow to manage this dependancies ?

I agree with you @firmansi
the problem is there are 2 topics discussed in this thread :

• Topic #1: Packaging of librechat
• Topic #2: How to build an AI agent to automate the process of packaging Cloudron app

I think that lead to our misunderstanding

We should split in 2 different thread
Yes Librechat needs RAG API to have all its feature

No a cloudron packaging agent does not need a RAG knowledge bases to be efficient (I think)

Those are 2 totally different subjects

Since recent update, I can't any more create new posts from HTML with API.

Did something change in the package ?