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Hi @joseph

• So 9.1.7 is marked "This update is a pre-release and not considered stable yet. Please update at your own risk." So I didn't update yet
• For pocketbase, I had to fork the repo. The reset of the email config on each restart is not acceptable for production.

Waiting for a packaging update of the official package

Thanks, I'll check on Monday, but my comment stay valid : I don't want the sender name to always be set back to "Pocketbase". This will not speak to the app users which expect mail sender to be the app name

I think the update_config should just be moved in the if bloc it would make more sense :

@james Even the "sender name" is overwritten on each reboot. I think this is too much as you are supposed to customize the app name here

@james For 2 reason

• Because at the moment I am still waiting for the Cloudron update allowing to send mails with default configuration (I don't want to mess my working DNS configuration)
• Because for customer facing apps, I think I may have a higher delivery rate with transactional mail services (currently my mails at tagged SPAM on some users)

I think the second reason is valid. But I found a workaround : as this app have a custom domain I can configure an external SMTP for this domain. My only issue currently is the first one (which should be solved soon if I understand)

hi @james
New issue here
As a workaround I used a third party SMTP (BREVO)
But when pocketbase restart it is set back to Cloudron SMTP. IS this expected behaviour ? I think this is not a good practice you should allow custom app configuration here ?

https://git.cloudron.io/packages/pocketbase-app/-/blob/main/start.sh?ref_type=heads#L33

This should not be in start.sh it should run only on fresh install and then let the user customize

@joseph
At the end is it related to hostinger config or any user would face this issue upon reboot ? Where does the faulty update comes from ?

Hi @james
So what should we do at the end? My cloudron server is quite critical for my business, and deleting a config file to make it up sounds a bit scary. I would be glad to have an official fix or recommendation on this.

@james
Any idea what could be specific to Hostinger in this issue ? I mean It's just a raw ubuntu installation in my case where I installed manually Cloudron

@james
For what it's worth, it is also an Hostinger VPS

@james

ls -l /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock
srwxr-xr-x 1 yellowtent yellowtent 0 Apr 20 20:20 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock

hi @james

Here the status on my fixed (cloudron.conf deleted). I can't check with the error as this server is used in production... I would have to test at night this not very convenient

systemctl status cloudron-syslog.service
WARNING: terminal is not fully functional
Press RETURN to continue
● cloudron-syslog.service - Cloudron Syslog
     Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/cloudron-syslog.service; enabled; preset: enabled)
     Active: active (running) since Mon 2026-04-20 20:20:34 UTC; 12h ago
   Main PID: 734 (MainThread)
      Tasks: 11 (limit: 19092)
     Memory: 71.9M (peak: 72.4M)
        CPU: 9.000s
     CGroup: /system.slice/cloudron-syslog.service
             └─734 node /home/yellowtent/box/syslog.js

hi @james

I tried to restore this file but docker won't start.

Claude analysis :

• systemd (file cloudron.conf) passes --log-driver=journald
• But /etc/docker/daemon.json also defines log-driver: json-file

So what is the official fix ?

Here are some logs :

tail -n 40 ../yellowtent/platformdata/logs/box.log
  stdout: '',
  stdoutString: '',
  stdoutLineCount: 0,
  stderr: 'Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?\n',
  stderrString: 'Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?\n',
  stderrLineCount: 1,
  code: 1,
  signal: null,
  timedOut: false,
  terminated: false
}
2026-04-20T20:18:28.212Z shell: docker: docker update --memory 268435456 --memory-swap -1 redis-9d1726c8-d217-45ab-ac30-0ec5c01c4cf0 errored BoxError: docker exited with code 1 signal null
    at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (file:///home/yellowtent/box/src/shell.js:70:23)
    at ChildProcess.emit (node:events:508:28)
    at maybeClose (node:internal/child_process:1101:16)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (node:internal/child_process:457:11)
    at Socket.emit (node:events:508:28)
    at Pipe.<anonymous> (node:net:346:12) {
  reason: 'Shell Error',
  details: {},
  stdout: '',
  stdoutString: '',
  stdoutLineCount: 0,
  stderr: 'Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?\n',
  stderrString: 'Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?\n',
  stderrLineCount: 1,
  code: 1,
  signal: null,
  timedOut: false,
  terminated: false
}
2026-04-20T20:18:28.213Z cron: handleAutoupdateConfigChanged: schedule - 00 00 1,2,3,4,5 * * 0,4/Europe/Paris, policy - platform_and_apps
2026-04-20T20:18:28.215Z cron: Dynamic DNS setting changed to false
2026-04-20T20:18:28.216Z dockerproxy: start: listening on 172.18.0.1:3003
2026-04-20T20:18:28.216Z From uncaughtException handler.
2026-04-20T20:18:28.216Z Error: listen EADDRNOTAVAIL: address not available 172.18.0.1:3003
2026-04-20T20:18:28.216Z     at Server.setupListenHandle [as _listen2] (node:net:1918:21)
2026-04-20T20:18:28.216Z     at listenInCluster (node:net:1997:12)
2026-04-20T20:18:28.216Z     at node:net:2206:7
2026-04-20T20:18:28.216Z     at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:89:21)

sudo journalctl -u docker --since "today" | grep -A5 "error\|Error\|failed\|Failed" | head -60
Apr 20 09:14:20 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T09:14:20.051807769Z" level=warning msg="ShouldRestart failed, container will not be restarted" container=4f0cb8c35e7ba64d6a081361646cb651cc3956442e62c97946f0d15edd6de455 daemonShuttingDown=false error="restart canceled" execDuration=13h52m56.033484743s exitStatus="{0 2026-04-20 09:14:19.681121204 +0000 UTC}" hasBeenManuallyStopped=true restartCount=0
Apr 20 09:16:48 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T09:16:48.421429471Z" level=info msg="Configured log driver does not support reads, enabling local file cache for container logs" container=951df08d2fe64f854504c7f945d526f99347a3b7ffc6b5742479f18ee8595776 driver=syslog
Apr 20 09:16:48 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T09:16:48.647044948Z" level=info msg="Skipping check for route to send NA, EMSGSIZE" eid=587f20e087dc ep=1c5d0773-9eca-48f8-945e-83733391299d net=cloudron nid=b08cee04d967
Apr 20 09:16:48 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T09:16:48.653269180Z" level=info msg="sbJoin: gwep4 ''->'587f20e087dc', gwep6 ''->'587f20e087dc'" eid=587f20e087dc ep=1c5d0773-9eca-48f8-945e-83733391299d net=cloudron nid=b08cee04d967
Apr 20 11:33:17 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T11:33:17.566840739Z" level=info msg="ignoring event" container=951df08d2fe64f854504c7f945d526f99347a3b7ffc6b5742479f18ee8595776 module=libcontainerd namespace=moby topic=/tasks/delete type="*events.TaskDelete"
Apr 20 11:33:17 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T11:33:17.626250628Z" level=warning msg="ShouldRestart failed, container will not be restarted" container=951df08d2fe64f854504c7f945d526f99347a3b7ffc6b5742479f18ee8595776 daemonShuttingDown=false error="restart canceled" execDuration=2h16m29.209514787s exitStatus="{0 2026-04-20 11:33:17.50260464 +0000 UTC}" hasBeenManuallyStopped=true restartCount=0
Apr 20 11:33:31 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T11:33:31.302996371Z" level=info msg="Configured log driver does not support reads, enabling local file cache for container logs" container=5cd41c6952e0e4a57df020a068ba8d8ad03a1962cf5166c16def923db4a19678 driver=syslog
Apr 20 11:33:31 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T11:33:31.544418039Z" level=info msg="Skipping check for route to send NA, EMSGSIZE" eid=cc6732021dd2 ep=1c5d0773-9eca-48f8-945e-83733391299d net=cloudron nid=b08cee04d967
Apr 20 11:33:31 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T11:33:31.550239968Z" level=info msg="sbJoin: gwep4 ''->'cc6732021dd2', gwep6 ''->'cc6732021dd2'" eid=cc6732021dd2 ep=1c5d0773-9eca-48f8-945e-83733391299d net=cloudron nid=b08cee04d967
Apr 20 20:17:06 srv565755 systemd[1]: Stopping docker.service - Docker Application Container Engine...
Apr 20 20:17:06 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:06.327530091Z" level=info msg="Processing signal 'terminated'"
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.546853647Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.555695229Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.555782219Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.555813540Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.566229495Z" level=info msg="ignoring event" container=0b8f6fb173a1d0e2d4dedcbfba65145ed2a57c720caab9bbe67f404771fc0c88 module=libcontainerd namespace=moby topic=/tasks/delete type="*events.TaskDelete"
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.568576383Z" level=info msg="ignoring event" container=b84eb548ee71992483f45e56428929b79bcc8aad1f7023b195c60f659780d168 module=libcontainerd namespace=moby topic=/tasks/delete type="*events.TaskDelete"
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.582046353Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.582069903Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.582693859Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.589390793Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.632285602Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.659873666Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.704349637Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.730620892Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.730674482Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.730804793Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.751950246Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.766076720Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.774481318Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.792120681Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.792250913Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.820107909Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.842432751Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.842499741Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.842352570Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.889893867Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.898854650Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.905530513Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.914025273Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.914073723Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.915739917Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.917869824Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.921901237Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.921959517Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.940298087Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.940385708Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.940415097Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.957654048Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.984816919Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.984879059Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:07 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:07.984904639Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.002561723Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.002633953Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.002662174Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.002688504Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.023282142Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.032926700Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.052743052Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=
Apr 20 20:17:08 srv565755 dockerd[928]: time="2026-04-20T20:17:08.052817351Z" level=error msg="Error writing log message" driver=syslog error="dial unix /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/syslog.sock: connect: no such file or directory" message=

Ok I did restore a previous state and then proceeded to update. This instance was not critical so no data loss

@james
So, should we do something to restore our cloudron to nominal configuration ? Recreate this cloudron.conf file somehow ?

my claude chat if it helps
https://claude.ai/share/acd62c73-b4e5-4e49-9e84-7e06d4229815

No I deleted the file to fix the issue as described by @osobo

@james
App title & version
n8n 2.16.1

Package version
io.n8n.cloudronapp@4.18.0

Same here
Docker version 29.1.5, build 0e6fee6

Hi @james
In my case i Didn't do any manual update : I let cloudron manage updates I just schedule a reboot once a week