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Grafana Loki

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  • TomsFreitasT TomsFreitas

    @girish Well, the most used setup with Loki is using it with promtail. Promtail resides in your agents and it pushes the logs to loki. Grafana then fetches the logs from loki. It's my understanding that both promtail and grafana support basic auth when interacting with loki

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    doodlemania2
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    wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @TomsFreitas yeah, i think that's right - I've never done it because it's always just been me pushing to it from a tailscale endpoint but I can see the value there.

    @girish - I think the best approach would be to leave it open (but behind SSL) and let Loki handle the auth.

    No?

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    • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

      @TomsFreitas yeah, i think that's right - I've never done it because it's always just been me pushing to it from a tailscale endpoint but I can see the value there.

      @girish - I think the best approach would be to leave it open (but behind SSL) and let Loki handle the auth.

      No?

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      girish
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      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      @doodlemania2 agree, but apparently loki doesn't have any auth of it's own - https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/operations/authentication/ . I guess this is why @TomsFreitas wants Cloudron to provide the auth.

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      • girishG girish

        @doodlemania2 agree, but apparently loki doesn't have any auth of it's own - https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/operations/authentication/ . I guess this is why @TomsFreitas wants Cloudron to provide the auth.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #21

        @girish Yes, if we could place cloudron in the middle doing authentication it would be incredible

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        • TomsFreitasT TomsFreitas

          @girish Yes, if we could place cloudron in the middle doing authentication it would be incredible

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          wrote on last edited by
          #22

          rats - I thought it would. Putting CR auth in front of Loki may be problematic - how would a payload or client that is pushing data to loki know that it's cloudron asking and not loki. if loki has no knowledge of auth, the inverse is problematic too.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #23

            ok, is this still on a roadmap? I could set up loki and promtail on a seperate docker server, but really would like to have this integrated into cloudron..

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              #24

              I would love to have some solution for logging aggregation in my cloudron. I see some of the projects here have been deleted. Any plans to add official support for Loki or some alternative?

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                #25

                Not sure what the status of https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/loki is . @doodlemania2 any update?

                I haven't used Loki myself but is it actually a web app?

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #26

                  It's not - it's really just an endpoint. I have used it as is for many moons and is rock solid. That said, it definitely needs an update. One of the challenges I faced is there's a LOT of changes under the covers, so I've stayed with this older version and it serves me well.

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                    Lanhild
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #27

                    I revived this package by making a new one @ https://github.com/Lanhild/loki-cloudron.
                    I iterate on @doodlemania2 's point: It is only an endpoint. Loki itself is simply the aggregator and API that you connect to Grafana.

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                      #28

                      @Lanhild I gave this a try, I keep getting this non-stop in console. Is this normal?

                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799939764Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/scheduler
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799950054Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/scheduler wait_index=269
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799960534Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/compactor
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799965693Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/compactor wait_index=267
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799970983Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/ring
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799975492Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/ring wait_index=268
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.900963825Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/ring
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901013418Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/ring wait_index=268
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901011464Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/distributor
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901046991Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/distributor wait_index=271
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901061147Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/scheduler
                      13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901077498Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/scheduler wait_index=269
                      
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                      • girishG girish

                        @Lanhild I gave this a try, I keep getting this non-stop in console. Is this normal?

                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799939764Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/scheduler
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799950054Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/scheduler wait_index=269
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799960534Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/compactor
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799965693Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/compactor wait_index=267
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799970983Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/ring
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799975492Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/ring wait_index=268
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.900963825Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/ring
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901013418Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/ring wait_index=268
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901011464Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/distributor
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901046991Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/distributor wait_index=271
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901061147Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/scheduler
                        13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901077498Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/scheduler wait_index=269
                        
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #29

                        @girish Yeah, the app indeed works, it's only overly verbose logs. I'll look into it if there's a setting.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @Lanhild I gave this a try, I keep getting this non-stop in console. Is this normal?

                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799939764Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/scheduler
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799950054Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/scheduler wait_index=269
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799960534Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/compactor
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799965693Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/compactor wait_index=267
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799970983Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/ring
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.799975492Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/ring wait_index=268
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.900963825Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/ring
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901013418Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/ring wait_index=268
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901011464Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/distributor
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901046991Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/distributor wait_index=271
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901061147Z caller=mock.go:189 msg="Get - deadline exceeded" key=collectors/scheduler
                          13:46:54 - level=debug ts=2025-06-25T11:46:54.901077498Z caller=mock.go:153 msg=Get key=collectors/scheduler wait_index=269
                          
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #30

                          @girish Tried one of the solution mentioned @ https://github.com/grafana/loki/issues/6182, without success.

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