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Mirotalk - Participants can't see each other 2

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    ekevu123
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    Thank you for explaining! If it happens next time again, I will look through port usage on the server.

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      james
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      Hello @ekevu123 and @mirotalk-57bab571
      I have figured out what the issue is with changing ports.
      An app update will be available soon that fixes this issue.

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        Hello @ekevu123 and @mirotalk-57bab571
        I have figured out what the issue is with changing ports.
        An app update will be available soon that fixes this issue.

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        @james said in Mirotalk - Participants can't see each other 2:

        I have figured out what the issue is with changing ports.
        An app update will be available soon that fixes this issue.

        Good! 👍

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          ekevu123
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          @james This issue is back

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            james
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            Hello @avatar1024
            I was unable to reproduce this issue.
            Changed the ports from 25000 to 30000 and tested with my desktop and mobile phone with no issues.

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              ekevu123
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              It has worked again now after changing the port and restarting the app. Does it need to be any port between 25000 and 30000?

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                It has worked again now after changing the port and restarting the app. Does it need to be any port between 25000 and 30000?

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                james
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                Hello @ekevu123
                No. I've also just tested with port 5000.
                But the ports need to be free since 100 ports will be used.
                So if you set the port to 5000, from port 5000 to port 5100 will be used.
                If a port in that range is used by another application, the mirotalk application will have issues.

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                  Hello @ekevu123
                  No. I've also just tested with port 5000.
                  But the ports need to be free since 100 ports will be used.
                  So if you set the port to 5000, from port 5000 to port 5100 will be used.
                  If a port in that range is used by another application, the mirotalk application will have issues.

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                  MiroTalk
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                  @james said in Mirotalk - Participants can't see each other 2:

                  If a port in that range is used by another application, the mirotalk application will have issues.

                  You can try to enable the WebRtcServer feature by adding the following to your env file:

                  SFU_SERVER=true
                  

                  Then, RESTART your instance.

                  How it works:

                  • MiroTalk spawns one Worker per CPU core by default.
                  • Each Worker runs its own WebRtcServer on a dedicated port.
                  • Ports are assigned sequentially starting from a base port (eg: 25000).
                  • This approach keeps port management simple: you only need to open as many ports as you have Workers.

                  Optional: You can manually set the number of Workers using:

                  SFU_NUM_WORKERS=4
                  

                  Example:
                  A server with 4 CPU cores (or 4 Workers) and a base port of 25000 will use the following ports:

                  25000, 25001, 25002, 25003
                  

                  You only need to open these 4 ports on your firewall.

                  More about 👉 here

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                    ekevu123
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                    Thank you, I will try that!

                    Since I faced the issue temporarily yesterday, but didn't when I tried to reproduce it with my phone, is the explanation that the port I was trying to use for the conversation was temporarily blocked, and restarting the app later re-assigned the port, so it worked again when starting a new conversation?

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                      MiroTalk
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                      You're welcome.
                      It could also be that another app was using a port within the specified range, maybe not constantly, but whenever it needed it, causing a temporary conflict. 👍

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                        ekevu123
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                        That would indeed explain it, but - and that is probably a question to the Cloudron team - shouldn't Cloudron prevent exactly that?

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                          ekevu123
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                          I keep having the issue sporadically, which makes it hard to use Mirotalk as a constant video provider without testing the connection before every meeting.

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                            james
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                            Hello @ekevu123
                            Thanks for reporting.

                            I would rule out the networking issue with the ports since Cloudron does bind these ports on app startup.
                            Thus, the ports could only interfere on app startup, failing to start the app and not at runtime.
                            You can check this with:

                            lsof -i :25000-25100
                            

                            So there must be something else going on for you.
                            Is there any pattern to this sporadically appearing issue?

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                              ekevu123
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                              No, I can't find any pattern, but I have just tested again after a server restart, and the issue persists

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                                james
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                                Hello @ekevu123
                                Can you share where you are hosting your Cloudron?

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                                  Also make sure that the firewall on your VPS/VDS is not enabled or blocking the required ports. For example, on Amazon EC2, if the inbound security group rules for the necessary RTC ports are not configured, the service will not work...

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                                    Hello @ekevu123
                                    Can you share where you are hosting your Cloudron?

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                                    ekevu123
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                                    @james said in Mirotalk - Participants can't see each other 2:

                                    Hello @ekevu123
                                    Can you share where you are hosting your Cloudron?

                                    Netcup, root server
                                    Don't forget, though, that the issue isn't permanent.

                                    @MiroTalk said in Mirotalk - Participants can't see each other 2:

                                    Also make sure that the firewall on your VPS/VDS is not enabled or blocking the required ports. For example, on Amazon EC2, if the inbound security group rules for the necessary RTC ports are not configured, the service will not work...

                                    Thank you! I only let Cloudron handle this.

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                                      james
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                                      Hello @ekevu123
                                      Next time the issue occurs please save the following logs

                                      • The MiroTalk SFU app log
                                      • the browser console log and network inspection log
                                      • /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/box.log
                                      • While this issue is occouring in the browser do:
                                        • Chrome based browsers go to brave://webrtc-internals/ and press Download the "webrtc-internals dump
                                        • FireFox based browsers go to about:webrtc and press Save Page

                                      This will help us to further narrow down the cause.

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                                        ekevu123
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                                        It has happened again and I was able to catch a few issues that might be related:

                                        1. WebRTC: ICE failed, add a STUN server and see about:webrtc for more details
                                        2. Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at https://translate.googleapis.com/element/log?format=json&hasfast=true&authuser=0. (Reason: CORS request did not succeed). Status code: (null).
                                        3. Consumer Transport failed
                                          Object { id: "9d932828-8aba-4b93-af58-235cb3a06c1b" }

                                        /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/box.log - doesn't contain anything related to mirotalk

                                        Network logs: lists that umami is failing (probably blocked by plugin) and googletranslate (see above)

                                        I am sending about:webrtc via e-mail, because it is a huge fail and contains personal information.

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