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Seriously, that is some amazing support. You will not find this elsewhere, anywhere. Cloudron rules!

Seems related, but I didn't update manually.

@perelin said in ArchiveBox initial setup: Should I use the regular login mask, but what password to use / where to set a password. If you followed the first time setup guid step by step, you should be able to user your cloudron username and password in the login mask. I have just tested and confirmed it is working if the first time setup guide is followed.

@Teiluj said in N8N Security: Would this obfuscate the n8n frontend, at least partially? Yes, but security via obscurity is useless. @jorrg said in N8N Security: So the only thing that I presume would change that if some automated scraper comes passing by my IP asking: "Do you run N8N?" my server would answer: "Please log in with your cloudron details" instead of "Sure I am running this N8N version" If your IP is scraped it will not even reply with N8N but would return Cloudron. They would need to know the subdomain of your N8N Cloudron app, which is also possible from e.g. the SSL/TLS certificate if wildcard is not used. Example for cloudron.io https://www.merklemap.com/search?query=cloudron.io&page=0 Anything that is publicly accessible in the World Wide Web is subjected to access attempts. And again, if N8N would use the custom OIDC plugin, the brute force would just move to a new target, the OIDC login. We are planning to add per app IP-Whitelisting. With that, apps could be gated behind e.g.: the Cloudron VPN app. This would be a reliable way to block public access.

@timconsidine said in Has anyone tried using Claude Code / Ralph Wiggum to package Cloudron apps?: initially ban your AI from creating code (!!), ask it to plan the overall task, and then the sub-tasks This is part of the work flow outlined here too:

@IniBudi: Thank you for your comment. The DNS entries for MTA-STS are not the problem; I can easily store them with a domain and DNS provider. The critical point is storing the necessary TXT file with the actual rules of conduct, which cannot be provided at the DNS level. To do this, I need a web server under the respective domain, and so, when using Cloudron, I automatically end up in the Cloudron user interface and in the domain settings area. There is already an area for so-called “well-known URIs” where entries for services such as Matrix, Mastodon, and Jitsi can already be stored. In my opinion, to implement this cleanly in cloudron, all that is needed is an input field where the MTA-STS rules can be stored.

@james it still happens sometimes. I did more investigation in the log. It says in between it couldn't find the file ("Old backup not found"). Jan 14 05:26:29 box:storage/s3 Upload progress: {"loaded":40692513140,"part":304,"Key":"snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc","Bucket":"ACME-BACKUP"} Jan 14 05:47:09 box:storage/s3 Upload finished. {"$metadata":{"httpStatusCode":200,"requestId":"REQUEST_ID_01-ACCOUNT_01-REGION_01","attempts":3,"totalRetryDelay":40000},"Bucket":"ACME-BACKUP","ETag":"\"\"","Key":"snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc","Location":"S3_ENDPOINT_01/ACME-BACKUP/snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc"} Jan 14 05:47:09 box:backuptask upload: path snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc site SITE_UUID_01 uploaded: {"fileCount":11571,"size":40692513140,"transferred":40692513140} Jan 14 05:47:09 box:tasks updating task TASK_ID_01 with: {"percent":75.1935483870967,"message":"Uploading integrity information to snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc.backupinfo (REGISTRY.DOMAIN.TLD)"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:storage/s3 Upload progress: {"loaded":146,"total":146,"part":1,"Key":"snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc.backupinfo","Bucket":"ACME-BACKUP"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:storage/s3 Upload finished. {"$metadata":{"httpStatusCode":200,"requestId":"REQUEST_ID_02-ACCOUNT_02-REGION_01","attempts":1,"totalRetryDelay":0},"ETag":"\"ETAG_01\"","Bucket":"ACME-BACKUP","Key":"snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc.backupinfo","Location":"https://ACME-BACKUP.s3.REGION_01.ionoscloud.com/snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc.backupinfo"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:backupupload upload completed. error: null Jan 14 05:47:10 box:backuptask runBackupUpload: result - {"result":{"stats":{"fileCount":11571,"size":40692513140,"transferred":40692513140},"integrity":{"signature":"SIGNATURE_01"}}} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:backuptask uploadAppSnapshot: REGISTRY.DOMAIN.TLD uploaded to snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc. 4202.695 seconds Jan 14 05:47:10 box:backuptask backupAppWithTag: rotating REGISTRY.DOMAIN.TLD snapshot of SITE_UUID_01 to path 2026-01-14-030000-896/app_REGISTRY.DOMAIN.TLD_VERSION_01.tar.gz.enc Jan 14 05:47:10 box:tasks updating task TASK_ID_01 with: {"percent":75.1935483870967,"message":"Copying (multipart) snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:tasks updating task TASK_ID_01 with: {"percent":75.1935483870967,"message":"Copying part 1 - ACME-BACKUP/snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc bytes=0-1073741823"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:tasks updating task TASK_ID_01 with: {"percent":75.1935483870967,"message":"Copying part 2 - ACME-BACKUP/snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc bytes=1073741824-2147483647"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:tasks updating task TASK_ID_01 with: {"percent":75.1935483870967,"message":"Copying part 3 - ACME-BACKUP/snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc bytes=2147483648-3221225471"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:tasks updating task TASK_ID_01 with: {"percent":75.1935483870967,"message":"Aborting multipart copy of snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc"} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:storage/s3 copy: s3 copy error when copying snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc: NoSuchKey: UnknownError Jan 14 05:47:10 box:backuptask copy: copy to 2026-01-14-030000-896/app_REGISTRY.DOMAIN.TLD_VERSION_01.tar.gz.enc errored. error: Old backup not found: snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc Jan 14 05:47:10 box:backuptask fullBackup: app REGISTRY.DOMAIN.TLD backup finished. Took 4203.103 seconds Jan 14 05:47:10 box:locks write: current locks: {"full_backup_task_SITE_UUID_01":null} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:locks release: app_backup_APP_UUID_01 Jan 14 05:47:10 box:tasks setCompleted - TASK_ID_01: {"result":null,"error":{"message":"Old backup not found: snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc","reason":"Not found"},"percent":100} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:tasks updating task TASK_ID_01 with: {"completed":true,"result":null,"error":{"message":"Old backup not found: snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc","reason":"Not found"},"percent":100} Jan 14 05:47:10 box:taskworker Task took 6429.474 seconds Jan 14 05:47:10 BoxError: Old backup not found: snapshot/app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc Jan 14 05:47:10 at throwError (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/s3.js:387:49) Jan 14 05:47:10 at copyInternal (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/s3.js:454:16) Jan 14 05:47:10 at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5) Jan 14 05:47:10 at async Object.copy (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/s3.js:488:12) Jan 14 05:47:10 at async Object.copy (/home/yellowtent/box/src/backupformat/tgz.js:282:5) Jan 14 05:47:10 Exiting with code 0 I checked the bucket and can see its still there: app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc 37.90 GB 14.1.2026, 05:36:49 app_APP_UUID_01.tar.gz.enc.backupinfo 146 bytes 14.1.2026, 05:47:09 Please also check the timestamps. Whats causing the the process is not finding the file and stopping the process?

Hello @jdaviescoates There already is an entry in the App Wishlist: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/102445

I just started using Jmap because of ThunderMail (not Thunderbird), but I really like that server. @andreasdueren I think having an additional mail server app would be great, but the actual mail server is perfectly integrated into Cloudron itself. Nice find! If this server becomes more stable (see the breaking changes when updating: https://github.com/stalwartlabs/stalwart/blob/main/UPGRADING/v0_15.md), it could be a very nice drop-in replacement for the internal mail server as long as the licence (https://github.com/stalwartlabs/stalwart?tab=readme-ov-file#license) fits. However, reading the 'Enterprise' options (https://stalw.art/enterprise/), it may not be suitable because 'Multi-Tenant' is an 'Enterprise' feature. If I find some time, I can do some tests and post the results here, but that's low priority.

@sfeldkamp yeah, that works for the Cloudron package.