I will lock this thread as we have published the initial app package now: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2372/bitwarden_rs

@yusf Do we have any update on this ?
i would like to use webhooks with my matrix instance but i'm kinda confused on what is the state of these bridges/app for matrix/element & cloudron.

@lonk you likely have to clear your browser cache

@lonk said in VPN tunnel for apps:

Oh, and it may require like 4 or 5 patches to box code. Forgot about that. 😅It's fully functional tho, a little unpolished, a lot unpolished. But everything works. @girish and I will work together to integrate it properly at some point after 6.0. My patches run at "start" time, so the fact they're inefficient isn't too big of a deal, but just know that somewhere down the line, @girish and I will add it properly into a stable version of Cloudron.

What an accomplishment this was for me back then. I like that my first post in the forums is this crazy hellscape of Cloudron and Docker development jargon. I also wonder if this will ever help anyone down the road. Either way, I'm glad this whole thing is archived, it's p nostalgic for me. ☺️

@girish @nebulon , just wanted to add my voice to ARM (RPi) support.

More and more hostings appears with RPi with a very attractive pricing (8Gb RAM, 4CPU Cores * 2Ghz, 30Gb network HDD) for ~$15/month.

It would be also very handy for a private in-office use, for a more private use cases.

@atridad hey I forgot about when that was !
Huge congratulations and best wishes to both of you 🍾

No rush at all, take your time, much more interesting projects around I'm sure.

See https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8101/fix-for-kernel-bug-in-ubuntu-20-04-causing-various-issues for a solution.

Someone has purpose to make money from Signal or open source chat app like this?

@timconsidine said in Why not make Cloudron fully open source again?:

Being fully open source is a red-herring IMHO.

I love Cloudron, I promote it and recommend it because as you say it is the most accomplished platform in that field, plus I love the community and have massive respect for the two main developers, for their skills and the great software they make but also because of their friendly attitude, their care for customer support and the way they engage with users. Plus while Cloudron is not Free Software the code source is out there for any to inspect so that's great in terms of users knowing what the software actually does and that's good enough for me.

However, the point of Free Software is not only about how things are now but also about future proofing. Things might change in the devs' lives, they might need to move on, they might need a lump of cash cause something terrible happen and sell the company, or whatever else. And if the new devs have a different ethics what do we do? Look for another software and all the time and energy spent on Cloudron is kinda wasted and then not as many people benefit from this amazing platform? And to be honest the current situation makes it hard to recommend it and promote in some context because not everyone is just interested in the best software or value for money but also care about software license but ethical and practical reasons.

I don't have a perfect solution as I understand and respect Girish and Nebulon's current position in that they don't want someone to just fork everything and release it for free.

Maybe something could be added in the license that says the code must be made publicly available, and that if the license changes to a more restrictive one (one that removes the public release of the code), then the current license reverts to a Free Software license e.g. AGLP 3.0 or its successor. This would basically guarantee Freedom 0 and 1 and would implement some kind of (twisted) copyleft. And that would be enough to make me happy 🙂

But I don't know if that is possible at all?? I'm a legal geek but not on software license...yet 😉 Anyone know?

@nebulon Amazing! Thank you!!

I spent several days to make ErpNext work with Cloudron MySQL or Postgres. Unfortunately, postgres support is still a work in progress in ErpNext upstream and the project uses some features like CREATE SEQUENCE that are only available in MySQL, not in MariaDB. That's why the current version of this package is the most stable one.

My suggestion to @staff if you can, please add the MariaDB addon alongside the MySQL addon. It should be extremely easy to add because of the similarity with MySQL. There are so many open source software that use MariaDB, and will sooner or later be incompatible with MySQL.

@jdaviescoates All the features listed on the top are part of 6.3.

@matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!

Odoo is an odd framework, because what you see on their SaaS version isn't all open-source, their SaaS version doesn't accept community add-ons, and the community open-source is missing many of the apps the SaaS has, so there's a marketplace for clones of them.

Basically, if you never want to do anything the SaaS doesn't offer, nor get involved with any development, SaaS makes sense for business.

If you find SaaS limitations that you can't build with the SaaS Studio, you need to go community-edition and buy a load of add-ons to reproduce the same, with the then responsibility of maintaining the codebase, but advantage of not being taxed with per-user costs on growth in the number of users.

I like Odoo a lot, it's just a bit quirky, and you are very much either SaaS OR CE, and support is either direct for SaaS or community for CE, neither wants to support the other, and you can't mix — if you choose the SaaS, you can't use any community add-ons or custom code, if you choose CE, you can't use any of the SaaS apps that haven't been open-sourced or cloned by the community.

@nebulon cheers !

@mdreira said in Changes to WordPress apps:

1-Is a security plugin necessary in wordpress managed?

I use the Developer package for WordPress so can't speak for the Managed version too much, but my general advice would be the following:

Generally speaking, it'd best to only install plugins when you know you have a need that isn't already addressed in the system. Thus, knowing your exact needs would come before choosing any particular plugin. My rule of thumb personally is not to install a plugin unless I understand why I need it and what I want to achieve with it.

Security is a huge umbrella with probably hundreds of different sub-categories / uses. So for example, it'd be good to know if you are wanting to be notified of any irregular file changes, block specific functionality in WordPress, lockdown user accounts with custom permissions, change the login page URL, rate limit logins, or a mix of those or a whole bunch of other ones.

It's good to copy an existing WordPress site (or a default one) to test new plugins on to see if they will interfere with your current setup, avoiding testing in any live production website.

Aside from the above, I'd honestly recommend just using the Developer package of WordPress. I know that goes against Girish's recommendation 👼 but there are at least several of us "power users" in Cloudron that feel there's no real upside to the Managed package other than a little bit more security by default. Eventually, whether it's sooner or later, you'll likely have the need to use a particular plugin that will need to modify files or access certain files, in which case you'll then have to do a bunch of work to migrate from the Managed package to the Developer package, so IMO you may as well just start on the Developer package to begin with unless you have very basic needs for WordPress and don't plan on growing it at all. And you won't want to be caught in a project that's time-sensitive to then find out you need to now also migrate an entire website to a new app instance type. I learned that lesson the hard way myself. 😉

By the way, every app has its own category in the forum. You may be better served to create a separate and dedicated post in the WordPress (managed or developer) categories. This thread in particular is pretty old and is generally on a different topic than "security plugins" for WordPress.

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