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"Searching toots by their content is not enabled on this Mastodon server."

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  • scookeS scooke

    @doodlemania2 I suppose so. I've installed my own Mastodon instance, but am finding it sort of weird that I can't easily find anyone else, nor any other Mastodon instance, from within my own. I read somewhere that part of that is due to a need to offer provacy and protection for users. But, I thought federation didn't just mean anyone could host but that everyone could also connect. Thus far, no. The only way I've found other 'topics' is to google a topic which include "mastodon" in the search query, and then click on promising links which lead me to its respective mastodon instance, and from there I can see who is posting interesting stuff. I then copy their username @user@mastodon.instance, then go back to my own instance and search for them specifically. Then they pop up and I can follow. So far, federated for me means separated and undiscoverable. Oh well.
    If elasticsearch would enable me on my single user instance to search for topics and hashtags around the fediverse, that would be an essential plugin. But I see the resource requirements are rather astronomical! Is there not a 'fedi-shared' ES server or service out there?

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    #10

    @scooke You need to use a relay to really get a fat list of other users if you don't know anyone else using an instance: Examples: https://github.com/naiba-archive/mastodon-relays

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      #11

      Sorry everyone for coming across negatively, but this is really bugging me! I've googled "mastodon relay", "join (m) relay", etc, and all i find are posts, tons of posts, that read basically, "I've set up a relay, subscribe here!".... but no where is there an explanation about how to subscribe! I see nothing in my mastodon instance to do so, nothing in the settings, nothing in the conf from the Cloudron Filemanager panel, nothing. Nothing. No wonder people stick with twitter and facebook!

      Could someone direct me to an actual site with explanations on how to join a relay, or whatever the syntax is, please?

      A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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      • scookeS scooke

        Sorry everyone for coming across negatively, but this is really bugging me! I've googled "mastodon relay", "join (m) relay", etc, and all i find are posts, tons of posts, that read basically, "I've set up a relay, subscribe here!".... but no where is there an explanation about how to subscribe! I see nothing in my mastodon instance to do so, nothing in the settings, nothing in the conf from the Cloudron Filemanager panel, nothing. Nothing. No wonder people stick with twitter and facebook!

        Could someone direct me to an actual site with explanations on how to join a relay, or whatever the syntax is, please?

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        murgero
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        wrote on last edited by murgero
        #12

        @scooke Relay config is in Mastodon Admin panel.

        Relay URL to put into that is usually displayed on the relay's web page.

        For example, to join the https://relay.mastodon.host/ relay, you use the URL https://relay.mastodon.host/inbox in the Mastodon relay admin page on your instance.

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        • murgeroM murgero

          @scooke Relay config is in Mastodon Admin panel.

          Relay URL to put into that is usually displayed on the relay's web page.

          For example, to join the https://relay.mastodon.host/ relay, you use the URL https://relay.mastodon.host/inbox in the Mastodon relay admin page on your instance.

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          wrote on last edited by scooke
          #13

          @murgero Thanks for the reply. I don't have an Admin panel. Just a preferences panel. When I tried appending /admin to my instance I received an error notice about not having permission to access the page, and when I clicked "Abut this server" I saw on the right side this!:

          ADMINISTERED BY:
          
          Not set
          N/A
          

          But can I find (easily) anything about how to set this up?? No. Just pages about how to use; nothing about how to set it up, or why in a single user instance it isn't automatically set up, nothing. It's unbelievable.

          Even within Cloudron, on the app dashboard page, in the dropdown menu, I can see there are three choices, the third one being Admin Page, but this is greyed out. I can't access it. What happened??

          OK, I've finally found this: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/setup/#admin Looks promising.

          Welp, I'm running various commands from the Terminal window in the app dasshboard, and nothing seems to be happening.

          RAILS_ENV=production bin/tootctl accounts modify alice --role admin
          

          produces nothing

          bin/tootctl accounts modify alice --role admin
          

          produces nothing.

          I'm not surprised this hasn't caught on.

          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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            #14

            Yes admin status has to be specifically granted through the cli, also see https://cloudron.io/documentation/apps/mastodon/#admin
            This has worked for me, but I am not sure if I had to relogin with that account to reflect the role change

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            • scookeS scooke

              @murgero Thanks for the reply. I don't have an Admin panel. Just a preferences panel. When I tried appending /admin to my instance I received an error notice about not having permission to access the page, and when I clicked "Abut this server" I saw on the right side this!:

              ADMINISTERED BY:
              
              Not set
              N/A
              

              But can I find (easily) anything about how to set this up?? No. Just pages about how to use; nothing about how to set it up, or why in a single user instance it isn't automatically set up, nothing. It's unbelievable.

              Even within Cloudron, on the app dashboard page, in the dropdown menu, I can see there are three choices, the third one being Admin Page, but this is greyed out. I can't access it. What happened??

              OK, I've finally found this: https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/setup/#admin Looks promising.

              Welp, I'm running various commands from the Terminal window in the app dasshboard, and nothing seems to be happening.

              RAILS_ENV=production bin/tootctl accounts modify alice --role admin
              

              produces nothing

              bin/tootctl accounts modify alice --role admin
              

              produces nothing.

              I'm not surprised this hasn't caught on.

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              murgero
              App Dev
              wrote on last edited by murgero
              #15

              @scooke as @nebulon *** said, you need to give your account admin rights via CLI (See link in his response) then once that is done sign out of Mastodon, then sign back in - go to your profile settings, and at the bottom you will see Admin related items for you to configure.

              Good luck!

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              • murgeroM murgero

                @scooke as @nebulon *** said, you need to give your account admin rights via CLI (See link in his response) then once that is done sign out of Mastodon, then sign back in - go to your profile settings, and at the bottom you will see Admin related items for you to configure.

                Good luck!

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                #16

                @murgero OK, I ran the CLI tool from the Terminal in the app dashboard, and though there was no indication anything was happening, it seemed to have worked. It helped that I just walked away from my laptop for a few hours, rather than "watching the kettle". So now I do have the Admin panel. BUT, unless signing out and in is part of the CLI process, I didn't do that, it was just there when I reloaded the page. Anyway, thanks again for your help and input. Rather than continue complaining I'm going to try to reread everything that I found not helpful the first time and see if it makes more sense now, and then try to rewrite the directions and post it somewhere. I'm sure I'm not the only user who will boot up a Mastodon instance expecting to have my own personal twitter that is automatically connected by federation!

                A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                  #17

                  I have also signed up with a free trial with an ElasticSearch provider (bonsai.io), just to see how to connect my instance to it in order to see what else is out there in the fediverse from within my own instance, I'm sure I'm going to just love trying to hook it all up!

                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                  • murgeroM murgero

                    @scooke Relay config is in Mastodon Admin panel.

                    Relay URL to put into that is usually displayed on the relay's web page.

                    For example, to join the https://relay.mastodon.host/ relay, you use the URL https://relay.mastodon.host/inbox in the Mastodon relay admin page on your instance.

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                    #18

                    @murgero said in "Searching toots by their content is not enabled on this Mastodon server.":

                    https://relay.mastodon.host/inbox

                    I've entered the url and was almost immediately listed in the "List of 286 registered and active instances:" Thank you!

                    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                      #19

                      Looks like some gems of info in this ^ to add to the docs.

                      Only just joining the Fediverse myself after all these years, the future looks cool AF!

                      Especially when you hear about take-down troll-gangs swarming profiles with "Report this..." clicks to get accounts banned for disagreeing with their ideologies or whatever.

                      Shall we have a post for "Follow on the Fediverse" for people to post links?

                      (assuming anyone wants to follow or be followed)

                      Looks like I found a new distraction anyway. Now - what to post on these things? 😂

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                      • doodlemania2D Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #20

                        Filtering out all the Anime pr*n is somewhat annoying, but I've managed to get a decent stream of good fed people going!

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                        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                          Filtering out all the Anime pr*n is somewhat annoying, but I've managed to get a decent stream of good fed people going!

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                          murgero
                          App Dev
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          @doodlemania2 You can probably find a github of a filterlist that has most nsfw instances blocked for you.

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                          • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                            So, I would think installing ElasticSearch into the Mastodon container would be problematic from a resource perspective. If not, we could certainly do it. If so, maybe a new Add On?

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                            #22

                            @doodlemania2 I’d be interested in having Elastic Search enabled in some way for my Mastodon instance.

                            How would we do it?

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                            • shanelord01S shanelord01

                              @doodlemania2 I’d be interested in having Elastic Search enabled in some way for my Mastodon instance.

                              How would we do it?

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                              doodlemania2
                              App Dev
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                              #23

                              @shanelord01 I don't think any progress was made. Still an open conversation.

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                                We have ElasticSearch packaged and in use for other needs. Will propose it to the board and see if it can become an official app. What Mastodon does with it I'm not so sure.

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                                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                  We have ElasticSearch packaged and in use for other needs. Will propose it to the board and see if it can become an official app. What Mastodon does with it I'm not so sure.

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                                  jdaviescoates
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                                  #25

                                  @marcusquinn said in "Searching toots by their content is not enabled on this Mastodon server.":

                                  We have ElasticSearch packaged and in use for other needs. Will propose it to the board and see if it can become an official app.

                                  Awesome.

                                  @marcusquinn said in "Searching toots by their content is not enabled on this Mastodon server.":

                                  What Mastodon does with it I'm not so sure.

                                  Makes full text search work, pretty much like it does everywhere else.

                                  See https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/optional/elasticsearch/

                                  Presumably you're using it for full text search in Nextcloud?

                                  I'd love to have on Cloudron for both reasons!

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    @marcusquinn said in "Searching toots by their content is not enabled on this Mastodon server.":

                                    We have ElasticSearch packaged and in use for other needs. Will propose it to the board and see if it can become an official app.

                                    Awesome.

                                    @marcusquinn said in "Searching toots by their content is not enabled on this Mastodon server.":

                                    What Mastodon does with it I'm not so sure.

                                    Makes full text search work, pretty much like it does everywhere else.

                                    See https://docs.joinmastodon.org/admin/optional/elasticsearch/

                                    Presumably you're using it for full text search in Nextcloud?

                                    I'd love to have on Cloudron for both reasons!

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #26

                                    @jdaviescoates Correct; Nextcloud, and Wordpress search using the ElasticPress plugin.

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                                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                      @jdaviescoates Correct; Nextcloud, and Wordpress search using the ElasticPress plugin.

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                                      jdaviescoates
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @marcusquinn said in "Searching toots by their content is not enabled on this Mastodon server.":

                                      Wordpress search using the ElasticPress plugin.

                                      I guess to make searching on the woocommerce supplements shops you run work well/ fast?

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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