Email for pocketbase

[james]

We found a solution and this will be part of the next Cloudron release.

[Valexico]

Thank you for your work on this. It was a hard one...
Any idea of the timing of this next release ? Are you speaking of a major release ?

[james]

Hello @valexico

@Valexico said:

Are you speaking of a major release ?

No, the next minor release will include this fix.
Until then, you can either set the port in pocketbase to 587 if incoming fails is enabled on your Cloudron. (not persistent across restarts)
Or you change the mail domain from my to e.g. mail. (persistent across restarts)

[Valexico]

Hi @james
I realised I can't find where to follow the releases of Cloudron. I found this post which does not seem up to date (I am currently on 9.1.6).

Is there a better source of information ?

[james]

Hello @valexico
The changelog of Cloudron can be found here: https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/blob/master/CHANGES

[Valexico]

Hi @james
so the fix will be in the 9.2.0 release ? Do you know when this will be pushed ? I am now on 9.1.6 and cloudron says it's latest ?
I am waiting for this fix to lauch a project to production

[james]

Hello @valexico

@Valexico said:

I am waiting for this fix to lauch a project to production

You don't have to wait for 9.2.0 since I have stated there are other ways to fix this right now.
Go into your mail configuration in the Cloudron dashboard and change the mail server subdomain from my. to mail. and it also solves the issue.

[Valexico]

But this require some DNS update. As the mail server is already used for other app I think waiting for the fix seem more secure

[james]

Hello @Valexico
If the apps are on Cloudron, all should automatically update as well when you change the subdomain for the mail server.
But the RDNS will also need to be updated.
So I can understand why you are hesitant.

[Valexico]

hi @james
New issue here
As a workaround I used a third party SMTP (BREVO)
But when pocketbase restart it is set back to Cloudron SMTP. IS this expected behaviour ? I think this is not a good practice you should allow custom app configuration here ?

https://git.cloudron.io/packages/pocketbase-app/-/blob/main/start.sh?ref_type=heads#L33

This should not be in start.sh it should run only on fresh install and then let the user customize

[james]

Hello @valexico
Some apps we package with optional mail setup configuration that can be disabled in the dashboard.
This app is currently non-optional.
We started to make a difference for apps that only send transactional mail and apps that do not.
PocketBase to our knowledge only sends transactional mails, for what the Cloudron Mail server is perfect.

Can you tell me why you'd like to configure a different mailer for this app specifically?

[Valexico]

@james For 2 reason

• Because at the moment I am still waiting for the Cloudron update allowing to send mails with default configuration (I don't want to mess my working DNS configuration)
• Because for customer facing apps, I think I may have a higher delivery rate with transactional mail services (currently my mails at tagged SPAM on some users)

I think the second reason is valid. But I found a workaround : as this app have a custom domain I can configure an external SMTP for this domain. My only issue currently is the first one (which should be solved soon if I understand)