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Avoid multiple redirects when using www.

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    • marcusquinnM Offline
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      wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
      #1

      Since Cloudron is handling the redirects, I don't think it would be efficient to do in the .htaccess for every site.

      Based on this Google Pagespeed report for http://marcusquinn.com which will be the first try for anyone typing in a domain:

      • https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=marcusquinn.com&tab=mobile&hl=en_GB

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      Compared to:

      • https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.marcusquinn.com%2F&hl=en_GB

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      In reference to these articles:

      • https://www.yes-www.org/why-use-www/
      • https://www.danielmorell.com/guides/htaccess-seo/redirects/https-www-and-trailing-slash
      • https://www.danielmorell.com/guides/htaccess-seo/sample-code/redirect-sample-code#https-www-files

      It seems this generator would be good for the default setup when www. is the Main location:

      • https://www.danielmorell.com/tools/htaccess/redirect-generator

      For example::

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      My website if you're interested in my ramblings on technology too 🙂 :

      • https://www.marcusquinn.com

      Will do a proper write-up post on Cloudron once I'm happy with my setup 😉

      Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
      Development https://brandlight.org
      Life https://marcusquinn.com

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      • girishG Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #2

        Good point. If i understand correctly, you want http://foo.com to redirect to https://www.foo.com directly. FWIW, because of redirect caching + HSTS this just a one time thing (atleast for that user+browser)

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        • girishG girish

          Good point. If i understand correctly, you want http://foo.com to redirect to https://www.foo.com directly. FWIW, because of redirect caching + HSTS this just a one time thing (atleast for that user+browser)

          marcusquinnM Offline
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          marcusquinn
          wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
          #3

          @girish Yes please 🙂 Same principles would be equally valuable to those using Ghost / Wordpress / Surfer for their www. site.

          Might be worth a note in the Docs too with a link to the above commentary on the reasons for choosing to use www. as it would help make high-availability multi-Cloudron setups possible, where you can have multiple CNAME IPs for a subdomain but not the naked root domain AFAIK.

          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
          Development https://brandlight.org
          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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          • girishG Offline
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            wrote on last edited by girish
            #4

            I have fixed this for the next release (5.6). Thanks for reporting.

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            • rmdesR Offline
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              #5

              I simply add www for most apps because too many people are used to type this before reaching their destination.
              But from reading this thread I'm even more confused ?

              I thought dropping www was not such bad idea, a bit a useless remain from when hosting was hard? I may be completely wrong but I really want to understand what's the best thing to do, certainly if it impacts SEO etc...

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              • rmdesR rmdes

                I simply add www for most apps because too many people are used to type this before reaching their destination.
                But from reading this thread I'm even more confused ?

                I thought dropping www was not such bad idea, a bit a useless remain from when hosting was hard? I may be completely wrong but I really want to understand what's the best thing to do, certainly if it impacts SEO etc...

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                wrote on last edited by
                #6

                @rmdes I think from a user point of view it just needs to work with either, they don't really care as long as typing results in what they were hoping for. From a Sys Admin point of view, www. is more flexible for scaling and high-availability setups. As an example, if you use Odoo enterprise, it must be www. for the websites.

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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