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  • robiR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by girish
    #1

    For those of us juggling multiple Cloudrons, it would be very useful to have a way to export an App backup on Cloudron1 which we can then import on Cloudron2.

    I realize there is a workaround by temporarily sharing the external backup target credentials, but that is disruptive to current backups and setup/policy.

    Alternatively it would be useful to have a secondary backup target, which could be used for this purpose.

    Conscious tech

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    • robiR robi

      For those of us juggling multiple Cloudrons, it would be very useful to have a way to export an App backup on Cloudron1 which we can then import on Cloudron2.

      I realize there is a workaround by temporarily sharing the external backup target credentials, but that is disruptive to current backups and setup/policy.

      Alternatively it would be useful to have a secondary backup target, which could be used for this purpose.

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      @robi isn't that already possible using this:

      Screenshot from 2020-10-15 22-40-31.png

      See https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#import-app-backup

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        @robi isn't that already possible using this:

        Screenshot from 2020-10-15 22-40-31.png

        See https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#import-app-backup

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        @jdaviescoates said in Export App Backup:

        See https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#import-app-backup

        Ah, having actually now read that, I think what you're asking it to make the whole process a lot easier, right?

        I'd quite like a really basic option to just to be able actually download/ upload the actual backup as a file to then import, not just the configuration file.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          #4

          The issue with downloading backups is that it's not clear how it can be implemented for rsync format. That is how can I download a "bundle" in the browser when the remote storage is rsync format. Only way is to download the full backup on the server first and then create a tar ball that the browser can download (so, we have to think about size constraints for this).

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            #5

            Perhaps the improvement to rsync is to use:

            tar --listed-incremental=snapshot.file -cvzf backup.tar.gz /path/to/dir
            

            Conscious tech

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              wrote on last edited by girish
              #6

              FWIW, none of the cloud service providers themselves have a way to download a "directory". Not S3, not DO spaces etc. It's a hard problem to solve.

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              • girishG girish

                FWIW, none of the cloud service providers themselves have a way to download a "directory". Not S3, not DO spaces etc. It's a hard problem to solve.

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                @girish what about cp & sync:
                aws s3 cp s3://myBucket/dir /local/folder --recursive or
                aws s3 sync s3://myBucket/dir /local/folder --recursive?

                SDKs have a downloadDirectory method from TransferManager class

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @girish what about cp & sync:
                  aws s3 cp s3://myBucket/dir /local/folder --recursive or
                  aws s3 sync s3://myBucket/dir /local/folder --recursive?

                  SDKs have a downloadDirectory method from TransferManager class

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                  #8

                  @robi I thought you wanted it downloaded via the browser? You can already down a backup with aws s3 CLI tool, no?

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                  • girishG girish

                    @robi I thought you wanted it downloaded via the browser? You can already down a backup with aws s3 CLI tool, no?

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                    @girish said in Export App Backup:

                    @robi I thought you wanted it downloaded via the browser?

                    The Cloudron UI, yes.

                    You can already down a backup with aws s3 CLI tool, no?

                    the previous comment was to disagree with:

                    @girish said in Export App Backup:

                    FWIW, none of the cloud service providers themselves have a way to download a "directory". Not S3, not DO spaces etc. It's a hard problem to solve.

                    Looked at another way, let's ask the question, how can we make it easy to clone, from backup, Apps across Cloudrons.

                    Push vs pull methods such as, send this app to Cloudron2 or pull this app from Cloudron1.

                    Conscious tech

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                    • robiR robi

                      @girish said in Export App Backup:

                      @robi I thought you wanted it downloaded via the browser?

                      The Cloudron UI, yes.

                      You can already down a backup with aws s3 CLI tool, no?

                      the previous comment was to disagree with:

                      @girish said in Export App Backup:

                      FWIW, none of the cloud service providers themselves have a way to download a "directory". Not S3, not DO spaces etc. It's a hard problem to solve.

                      Looked at another way, let's ask the question, how can we make it easy to clone, from backup, Apps across Cloudrons.

                      Push vs pull methods such as, send this app to Cloudron2 or pull this app from Cloudron1.

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                      @robi ah, I meant none of them allow you to download via the browser either.

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                        #11

                        I agree that the process for all of this should looked at and made easier for a typical user.

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                        • girishG girish

                          @robi ah, I meant none of them allow you to download via the browser either.

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                          @girish you can be the first to make it possible!
                          Then sell the integration FTW! 😛

                          Depending on what's used it's a few CLI parameters.

                          Conscious tech

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                            Adding to this: Maybe it's possible to implement a backup browser via the file browser, at least for the rsync format and even for encrypted backups?

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