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Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!

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  • ? A Former User

    @atrilahiji It doesn't seem to break anything (as far as I can see) to upgrade. Might be worth doing? I just pulled down the repo, bumped the version, and deployed via the CLI.

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    @atrilahiji generally prudent to wait until the first point release i.e. 20.01 or whatever before updating the package on Cloudron.

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      Indeed it looks nice. We will start testing an update soon, however based on previous experience we will likely only roll that out after the first patch release and even then slowly across our user base. Especially with those Nextcloud addons installed the installations often break and cause a lot of support tickets on our side.

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        @atrilahiji generally prudent to wait until the first point release i.e. 20.01 or whatever before updating the package on Cloudron.

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        @jdaviescoates oh I deployed into another app. I still have the old version hosted

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          Nextcloud is now at 20.0.1
          https://github.com/nextcloud/server/releases/tag/v20.0.1

          Maybe @nebulon can have a look at it if it's stable enough by now?

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          • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

            Nextcloud is now at 20.0.1
            https://github.com/nextcloud/server/releases/tag/v20.0.1

            Maybe @nebulon can have a look at it if it's stable enough by now?

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            #15

            Announcement: https://nextcloud.com/blog/20-0-1-is-here-with-about-60-changes-get-your-update/
            Official changelog: https://nextcloud.com/changelog/

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              #16

              It is on our radar. Given that they introduced this new dashboard as the default view, I am working to adjust our tests. Lets see how smooth the upgrade this time around will be with Nextcloud 🙂

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                I've released a new app package now for 20.0.1 but we will only roll this out slowly.

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  I've released a new app package now for 20.0.1 but we will only roll this out slowly.

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                  @nebulon said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                  I've released a new app package now for 20.0.1 but we will only roll this out slowly.

                  Just upgraded, everything seems to work fine! I had to restart the app once, afterwards I could see all update steps being taken in the logs.

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                    Yeah worked fine for me. Seems ok so far...

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                      #20

                      update ran smoothly. but most of the nextcloud apps are not compatible for the new major version 😞

                      Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                        @luckow Any on top of your head that are incompatible? I thought we are in the first patch release already...

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                        • girishG girish

                          @luckow Any on top of your head that are incompatible? I thought we are in the first patch release already...

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                          @girish i looked into the app admin view again. Aaaannnd magic 🙂 Only three of my installed apps are in the status "untested app". I do not know what happened at first view. Maybe tomatoes on my eyes or a cache topic.

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                          • luckowL luckow

                            @girish i looked into the app admin view again. Aaaannnd magic 🙂 Only three of my installed apps are in the status "untested app". I do not know what happened at first view. Maybe tomatoes on my eyes or a cache topic.

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                            @luckow Yeah when I was testing by pulling down the repo and bumping the version, it seemed like Nextcloud needed a reload to register that apps were tested.

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                              Update went smoothly, with 11 apps updated too. Great stuff!

                              Just Draw.io and Retention apps remain Untested for me.

                              Only done on my personal server as I think work production servers should wait a while for a good month of uptime and anecdotes really.

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                                Anyone has found NC to be generally a little slower since the update?

                                It seems mine is. Definitely loading the dashboard takes a long while when opening the NC app (I have disabled now the Dashboard because of it), but even general navigation and document loading seem a little more sluggish than before.

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                                • avatar1024A avatar1024

                                  Anyone has found NC to be generally a little slower since the update?

                                  It seems mine is. Definitely loading the dashboard takes a long while when opening the NC app (I have disabled now the Dashboard because of it), but even general navigation and document loading seem a little more sluggish than before.

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                                  @avatar1024 said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                                  Anyone has found NC to be generally a little slower since the update?

                                  It seems mine is. Definitely loading the dashboard takes a long while when opening the NC app (I have disabled now the Dashboard because of it), but even general navigation and document loading seem a little more sluggish than before.

                                  Mine is slower, too, which I think is due to the "unified search" which has to index a lot of data at any time...

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                                    The speed for nextcloud heavily depends on Nextcloud addons/apps/plugins being used. Since it is a php app this matters a lot for each request. The dashboard has pulled in quite a bit of stuff it seems...

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                                      Also it will have cleared a lot of caches, so you should notice speed improve with use.

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                                        With the latest nc package, there is a directory called /app/data/apache. Inside this, you will find mpm_prefork.conf. You should bump up the Nextcloud app's memory limit and also bump the values inside this file to get some better performance.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          With the latest nc package, there is a directory called /app/data/apache. Inside this, you will find mpm_prefork.conf. You should bump up the Nextcloud app's memory limit and also bump the values inside this file to get some better performance.

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                                          @girish thanks for the tips. Do you know by how much we should bump up these numbers and the app's memory limit?

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