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Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!

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  • nebulonN Offline
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    #17

    I've released a new app package now for 20.0.1 but we will only roll this out slowly.

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    • nebulonN nebulon

      I've released a new app package now for 20.0.1 but we will only roll this out slowly.

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      #18

      @nebulon said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

      I've released a new app package now for 20.0.1 but we will only roll this out slowly.

      Just upgraded, everything seems to work fine! I had to restart the app once, afterwards I could see all update steps being taken in the logs.

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        Yeah worked fine for me. Seems ok so far...

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        • luckowL Offline
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          #20

          update ran smoothly. but most of the nextcloud apps are not compatible for the new major version 😞

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            @luckow Any on top of your head that are incompatible? I thought we are in the first patch release already...

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            • girishG girish

              @luckow Any on top of your head that are incompatible? I thought we are in the first patch release already...

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              #22

              @girish i looked into the app admin view again. Aaaannnd magic 🙂 Only three of my installed apps are in the status "untested app". I do not know what happened at first view. Maybe tomatoes on my eyes or a cache topic.

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              • luckowL luckow

                @girish i looked into the app admin view again. Aaaannnd magic 🙂 Only three of my installed apps are in the status "untested app". I do not know what happened at first view. Maybe tomatoes on my eyes or a cache topic.

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                @luckow Yeah when I was testing by pulling down the repo and bumping the version, it seemed like Nextcloud needed a reload to register that apps were tested.

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                  #24

                  Update went smoothly, with 11 apps updated too. Great stuff!

                  Just Draw.io and Retention apps remain Untested for me.

                  Only done on my personal server as I think work production servers should wait a while for a good month of uptime and anecdotes really.

                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                  Development https://brandlight.org
                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    Anyone has found NC to be generally a little slower since the update?

                    It seems mine is. Definitely loading the dashboard takes a long while when opening the NC app (I have disabled now the Dashboard because of it), but even general navigation and document loading seem a little more sluggish than before.

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                    • avatar1024A avatar1024

                      Anyone has found NC to be generally a little slower since the update?

                      It seems mine is. Definitely loading the dashboard takes a long while when opening the NC app (I have disabled now the Dashboard because of it), but even general navigation and document loading seem a little more sluggish than before.

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                      #26

                      @avatar1024 said in Oooh, Nextcloud 20 has lots of nice new features!:

                      Anyone has found NC to be generally a little slower since the update?

                      It seems mine is. Definitely loading the dashboard takes a long while when opening the NC app (I have disabled now the Dashboard because of it), but even general navigation and document loading seem a little more sluggish than before.

                      Mine is slower, too, which I think is due to the "unified search" which has to index a lot of data at any time...

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                        The speed for nextcloud heavily depends on Nextcloud addons/apps/plugins being used. Since it is a php app this matters a lot for each request. The dashboard has pulled in quite a bit of stuff it seems...

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                          Also it will have cleared a lot of caches, so you should notice speed improve with use.

                          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                          Development https://brandlight.org
                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                            With the latest nc package, there is a directory called /app/data/apache. Inside this, you will find mpm_prefork.conf. You should bump up the Nextcloud app's memory limit and also bump the values inside this file to get some better performance.

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                            • girishG girish

                              With the latest nc package, there is a directory called /app/data/apache. Inside this, you will find mpm_prefork.conf. You should bump up the Nextcloud app's memory limit and also bump the values inside this file to get some better performance.

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                              @girish thanks for the tips. Do you know by how much we should bump up these numbers and the app's memory limit?

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                              • avatar1024A avatar1024

                                @girish thanks for the tips. Do you know by how much we should bump up these numbers and the app's memory limit?

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                                @avatar1024 This mostly depends on how many plugins and users you have, this is why we made it configurable. I would just play around with those values a bit to get a feel of any performance benefits. The default prefork file has some comments on what those values mean.

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                                  #32

                                  Last night I saw the update available for NC. This made me both excited and reluctant at the same time. 🙂 Excited because I'm interested to try some of the new features. Reluctant because I use my NC instances heavily for work and personal.

                                  I'd appreciate if anyone is using any of these apps, can you confirm if the following apps are working in 20.*:

                                  • Appointments
                                  • Forms
                                  • Deck
                                  • Polls
                                  • Tasks
                                  • Bookmarks
                                  • News
                                  • Phonetrack
                                  • Music

                                  (I am assuming the Calendar, Contacts and Mail applications are already working.)

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                                    Last night I saw the update available for NC. This made me both excited and reluctant at the same time. 🙂 Excited because I'm interested to try some of the new features. Reluctant because I use my NC instances heavily for work and personal.

                                    I'd appreciate if anyone is using any of these apps, can you confirm if the following apps are working in 20.*:

                                    • Appointments
                                    • Forms
                                    • Deck
                                    • Polls
                                    • Tasks
                                    • Bookmarks
                                    • News
                                    • Phonetrack
                                    • Music

                                    (I am assuming the Calendar, Contacts and Mail applications are already working.)

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                                    #33

                                    @ei8fdb Yep, hopefully I'm not wrong but I think all of them have been updated to work with NC 20.

                                    You can double check yourself by visiting https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/ and looking up each app

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                                      #34

                                      This is where I wish we used faster more efficient webservers for our apps. So many choices.

                                      Conscious tech

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                                      • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                                        Last night I saw the update available for NC. This made me both excited and reluctant at the same time. 🙂 Excited because I'm interested to try some of the new features. Reluctant because I use my NC instances heavily for work and personal.

                                        I'd appreciate if anyone is using any of these apps, can you confirm if the following apps are working in 20.*:

                                        • Appointments
                                        • Forms
                                        • Deck
                                        • Polls
                                        • Tasks
                                        • Bookmarks
                                        • News
                                        • Phonetrack
                                        • Music

                                        (I am assuming the Calendar, Contacts and Mail applications are already working.)

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                                        luckow
                                        translator
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #35

                                        @ei8fdb The second best way to test compatibility (after asking your friends), is to clone your current nc from a backup to a new subdomain and update it to nc 20. That is the Cloudron style 😉

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                                        • luckowL luckow

                                          @ei8fdb The second best way to test compatibility (after asking your friends), is to clone your current nc from a backup to a new subdomain and update it to nc 20. That is the Cloudron style 😉

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                                          wrote on last edited by ei8fdb
                                          #36

                                          @luckow Ah, never thought of that! Thanks. Tho' I have a lot of data in my personal NC so I don't know if I have the disk space!

                                          Instead I created a new test instance and installed all the apps I currently use. So far it works well.

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