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  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

    And for an AirTable alternative I'm a big fan of what Directus makes easier:

    https://directus.io

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    Since I can't resist a FOSS Alternative search, this looks interesting if you're into AirTable:

    LeanTime looks similar at first glance: https://leantime.io

    More info in the Docs: https://docs.leantime.io

    Not tried it and I've no idea on your usage and needs so just adding for the record really.

    Personally I like Directus for being both standardised, openness and portable data.

    If I were in the market for AirTable it would be difficult to choose it against Odoo but then if you want coddles you'd need an enterprise subscription for Odoo Studio: https://www.odoo.com/page/studio

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      A couple more that look worth watching at least:

      https://wiki.js.org (already on Cloudron)

      https://anytype.io
      https://github.com/anytypeio
      https://twitter.com/AnytypeLabs

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        Twake looks interesting: https://twake.app

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          Baserow : This under development project seems to be in the "alternative to airtable" category : https://baserow.io/ https://gitlab.com/bramw/baserow

          Notion :
          I have a friend that moved his entire wordpress.org blog (15 years of posts) to guess what ?
          notion !

          He's definitely part of the no-code approach and bootstrap lots of different journalist/media projects with no-code approaches.

          I wish I could convince him to use something else and instead have an entire cloudron powering his infrastructure, but without a serious FOSS alternative to notion I won't get him on our boat ๐Ÿ˜•

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            Baserow : This under development project seems to be in the "alternative to airtable" category : https://baserow.io/ https://gitlab.com/bramw/baserow

            Notion :
            I have a friend that moved his entire wordpress.org blog (15 years of posts) to guess what ?
            notion !

            He's definitely part of the no-code approach and bootstrap lots of different journalist/media projects with no-code approaches.

            I wish I could convince him to use something else and instead have an entire cloudron powering his infrastructure, but without a serious FOSS alternative to notion I won't get him on our boat ๐Ÿ˜•

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            @rmdes Exactly. Thereโ€™s no arguing against such superior product. ๐Ÿ˜จ

            If only there was a way to make sure FOSS devs got paid for their workโ€ฆ

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            • yusfY yusf

              @rmdes Exactly. Thereโ€™s no arguing against such superior product. ๐Ÿ˜จ

              If only there was a way to make sure FOSS devs got paid for their workโ€ฆ

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              @yusf I think GitHub Sponsoring is making better inroads for that. Be good if GitLab followed that too.

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              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                A couple more that look worth watching at least:

                https://wiki.js.org (already on Cloudron)

                https://anytype.io
                https://github.com/anytypeio
                https://twitter.com/AnytypeLabs

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                @marcusquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                https://anytype.io
                https://github.com/anytypeio
                https://twitter.com/AnytypeLabs

                Yeah @seeker mentioned Anytype.io higher up the thread, looks like it'sthe closest thing to an open source Notion.

                Fill in this form to help them prioritise (and likely get you up the wait list too):

                https://anytype.typeform.com/to/bRQZWx

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                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                  @yusf I think GitHub Sponsoring is making better inroads for that. Be good if GitLab followed that too.

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                  @marcusquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                  Be good if GitLab followed that too.

                  Yeah, although nothing stopping anyone setting up OpenCollective and Liberapay accounts and adding the info to their README in GitLab ๐Ÿ™‚

                  Both are open source too. Open Collective isn't really designed/ ready to self-host yet but you can support those efforts here https://opencollective.com/community and upvote here:

                  https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5408

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                  • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                    Twake looks interesting: https://twake.app

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                    @marcusquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                    Twake looks interesting: https://twake.app

                    It's nothing like Notion imho, but does indeed look pretty nice!

                    Upvote here:
                    https://forum.cloudron.io/post/10591

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                      @marcusquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                      https://anytype.io
                      https://github.com/anytypeio
                      https://twitter.com/AnytypeLabs

                      Yeah @seeker mentioned Anytype.io higher up the thread, looks like it'sthe closest thing to an open source Notion.

                      Fill in this form to help them prioritise (and likely get you up the wait list too):

                      https://anytype.typeform.com/to/bRQZWx

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                      @jdaviescoates said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                      Yeah @seeker mentioned Anytype.io higher up the thread, looks like it'sthe closest thing to an open source Notion.

                      I attended an intro webinar thing about anytype.io the other day.

                      It's pretty cool, but they have no plans for a web app.

                      It's all based on IPFS

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        @jdaviescoates said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                        Yeah @seeker mentioned Anytype.io higher up the thread, looks like it'sthe closest thing to an open source Notion.

                        I attended an intro webinar thing about anytype.io the other day.

                        It's pretty cool, but they have no plans for a web app.

                        It's all based on IPFS

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                        @jdaviescoates Interesting. What's the front-end stack like?

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                        • yusfY yusf

                          @jdaviescoates Interesting. What's the front-end stack like?

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                          @yusf as in what is it coded in? I'm not sure actually. If they covered that it was during the part I missed!

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                          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                            @yusf as in what is it coded in? I'm not sure actually. If they covered that it was during the part I missed!

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                            @jdaviescoates If they have no plans for a web app I really wonder what stack they're using and possible subsequent lockins.

                            But regardless I'm also interested in what they did have to say about their project.

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                              @jdaviescoates said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                              Yeah @seeker mentioned Anytype.io higher up the thread, looks like it'sthe closest thing to an open source Notion.

                              I attended an intro webinar thing about anytype.io the other day.

                              It's pretty cool, but they have no plans for a web app.

                              It's all based on IPFS

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                              @jdaviescoates Thanks! I am curious how did you find out about the information session?

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                                @jdaviescoates Thanks! I am curious how did you find out about the information session?

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                                @seeker I filled in this form:
                                anytype.typeform.com/to/bRQZWx

                                You can also join their Telegram group if that's your thing:
                                t.me/anytype

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                                  If there's still interest around this question, the most promising option right now is Athens, which aims to be an alternative to Roam and Notion (and is getting close to feature-parity).

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                                    If there's still interest around this question, the most promising option right now is Athens, which aims to be an alternative to Roam and Notion (and is getting close to feature-parity).

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                                    @soup Nice spot! Trial by downloaded Electron version is handy too. Looks like it deserves it's own App Wishlist post if you'd like the finder's honours?

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                                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                      @soup Nice spot! Trial by downloaded Electron version is handy too. Looks like it deserves it's own App Wishlist post if you'd like the finder's honours?

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                                      @marcusquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                                      Looks like it deserves it's own App Wishlist post if you'd like the finder's honours?

                                      I only had a very quick look but it looks like Athens is like Anytype in that it's not actually a server thing at all, no? i.e. I think it's just a desktop app, not a web app, no?

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                        @soup Nice spot! Trial by downloaded Electron version is handy too. Looks like it deserves it's own App Wishlist post if you'd like the finder's honours?

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                                        @marcusquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                                        Looks like it deserves it's own App Wishlist post if you'd like the finder's honours?

                                        Yep, can do the post :).

                                        @marcusquinn @girish
                                        Can I do one post for Athens and one for Logseq? Both are doing the same thing, the difference being that (i) Athens goes with a custom format for storing files, while Logseq works with text files (both markdown and org mode) [edit: Athens also aims to store information in text files in the future] and (ii) can sync via Github (+Gitlab, WebDAV, etc. in the future). Logseq's founder did state that it's designed to be self-hostable, but hasn't released the backend code yet (need to ensure security first), so maybe I should wait before doing that post?

                                        By the way, the founders of both apps are very reactive: might be interesting to drop them a line on Github or Twitter as they might be willing to provide support with the packaging.


                                        @jdaviescoates said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                                        I only had a very quick look but it looks like Athens is like Anytype in that it's not actually a server thing at all, no? i.e. I think it's just a desktop app, not a web app, no?

                                        I agree that it is a bit unclear, I'm going off of the fact that the option to self-host features quite heavily in Athens' communication and approach to monetisation, and the founder did discuss hosting on Sandstorm here (though it did prove problematic), but I might have misunderstood.

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                                          @marcusquinn said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                                          Looks like it deserves it's own App Wishlist post if you'd like the finder's honours?

                                          Yep, can do the post :).

                                          @marcusquinn @girish
                                          Can I do one post for Athens and one for Logseq? Both are doing the same thing, the difference being that (i) Athens goes with a custom format for storing files, while Logseq works with text files (both markdown and org mode) [edit: Athens also aims to store information in text files in the future] and (ii) can sync via Github (+Gitlab, WebDAV, etc. in the future). Logseq's founder did state that it's designed to be self-hostable, but hasn't released the backend code yet (need to ensure security first), so maybe I should wait before doing that post?

                                          By the way, the founders of both apps are very reactive: might be interesting to drop them a line on Github or Twitter as they might be willing to provide support with the packaging.


                                          @jdaviescoates said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                                          I only had a very quick look but it looks like Athens is like Anytype in that it's not actually a server thing at all, no? i.e. I think it's just a desktop app, not a web app, no?

                                          I agree that it is a bit unclear, I'm going off of the fact that the option to self-host features quite heavily in Athens' communication and approach to monetisation, and the founder did discuss hosting on Sandstorm here (though it did prove problematic), but I might have misunderstood.

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                                          @soup said in Notion-like FOSS app:

                                          Can I do one post for Athens and one for Logseq?

                                          Go for it! You don't need permission ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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