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Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox

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  • jdaviescoatesJ Online
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    jdaviescoates
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    #1

    We've already got File Pizza but Firefox Send looks pretty nice too:

    https://send.firefox.com
    https://github.com/mozilla/send
    https://github.com/mozilla/send/blob/master/docs/docker.md

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      mehdi
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      I think they are not quite the same. FilePizza just transfers the files between 2 users, Firefox send actually stores them (encrypted of course)

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        I would prefer Firefox Send --- mostly cause File Pizza is a really bad name...

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          I use Send a lot, would love to have this as well. As @mehdi said, the use cases are a bit different. I haven't had any practical use for FilePizza but it's great for some p2p data transfer testing 🙂 Whereas with send, there is a firefox extension using which you can upload screenshots, clips automatically.

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            #5

            Firefox Send is dead 😞 - https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/09/17/update-on-firefox-send-and-firefox-notes/

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            • girishG girish

              Firefox Send is dead 😞 - https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2020/09/17/update-on-firefox-send-and-firefox-notes/

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              jdaviescoates
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              #6

              @girish that's a shame, thanks for the heads-up.

              I guess someone could conceivably pick up and run with the source code, but I'm not going to hold my breath 😕

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @girish that's a shame, thanks for the heads-up.

                I guess someone could conceivably pick up and run with the source code, but I'm not going to hold my breath 😕

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                girish
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                @jdaviescoates said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                I guess someone could conceivably pick up and run with the source code, but I'm not going to hold my breath

                Someone did 🙂 - https://github.com/timvisee/send

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                  #8

                  While more options are good, I feel like with file pizza, jirafeau, and now bitwarden send, we have a lot of very solid options in this space. Still, I'm glad someone revived the project!

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                    #9

                    Community fork of Send:
                    https://github.com/timvisee/send
                    https://send.vis.ee/

                    EDIT: Sorry, I see this has been posted by @girish already

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                    • ? A Former User

                      While more options are good, I feel like with file pizza, jirafeau, and now bitwarden send, we have a lot of very solid options in this space. Still, I'm glad someone revived the project!

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                      @atridad Absolutely agree. Jirafeau working nice and stable and Bitwarden is perhabs the best hardened Solition with Rust.

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                        #11

                        Hey folks, I like Send because it integrated with Thunderbird, etc and saves me the step of uploading something to my Jirafeau (also, I can never remember how to spell it).

                        What's involved in taking their Docker compose file and turning it into a Cloudron app? It looks like if it were easy, somebody would have done it already and I wonder if I am missing something.

                        Thanks for letting me comment on an ancient post 🙂

                        👉 Find our more www.bebraver.online

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                          Hey folks, I like Send because it integrated with Thunderbird, etc and saves me the step of uploading something to my Jirafeau (also, I can never remember how to spell it).

                          What's involved in taking their Docker compose file and turning it into a Cloudron app? It looks like if it were easy, somebody would have done it already and I wonder if I am missing something.

                          Thanks for letting me comment on an ancient post 🙂

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                          #12

                          @3246 how is send integrated with thunderbird? Do you have any screenshots? A quick search didn't give me any.

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                            Thanks @girish. I am using https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-send/ with Betterbird/Thunderbird.

                            Repo https://github.com/tdulcet/Thunderbird-Send

                            👉 Find our more www.bebraver.online

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                              Thanks @girish. I am using https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-send/ with Betterbird/Thunderbird.

                              Repo https://github.com/tdulcet/Thunderbird-Send

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                              @3246 I remember looking into this project before. Issue is that it has no concept of authentication. Essentially, you have to set up something where anyone can upload anything. This is dangerous especially for Cloudron because some DMCA notice or equivalent will ban your entire server and not just the send instance.

                              See also https://github.com/timvisee/send/issues/32 and https://github.com/timvisee/send/issues/108 . IMO, best to just host this outside Cloudron in a separate server.

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                                Hey folks, I like Send because it integrated with Thunderbird, etc and saves me the step of uploading something to my Jirafeau (also, I can never remember how to spell it).

                                What's involved in taking their Docker compose file and turning it into a Cloudron app? It looks like if it were easy, somebody would have done it already and I wonder if I am missing something.

                                Thanks for letting me comment on an ancient post 🙂

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                                jdaviescoatesJ Online
                                jdaviescoates
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                                @3246 said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                Jirafeau (also, I can never remember how to spell it)

                                Why do you need to know how to spell it? e.g. I have my instance installed at https://fileshare.domain.tld

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • girishG girish

                                  @3246 I remember looking into this project before. Issue is that it has no concept of authentication. Essentially, you have to set up something where anyone can upload anything. This is dangerous especially for Cloudron because some DMCA notice or equivalent will ban your entire server and not just the send instance.

                                  See also https://github.com/timvisee/send/issues/32 and https://github.com/timvisee/send/issues/108 . IMO, best to just host this outside Cloudron in a separate server.

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                                  jdaviescoates
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                                  #16

                                  @girish said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                  @3246 I remember looking into this project before. Issue is that it has no concept of authentication.

                                  Surely on Cloudron that wouldn't be a problem as it could use Cloudron's built in proxy auth or whatever it's called? (like you already do with lots of other apps without auth)

                                  @girish said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                  See also https://github.com/timvisee/send/issues/32

                                  Via that I found this similar tool which does have simple authentication options:

                                  https://github.com/psi-4ward/psitransfer/
                                  https://psi.cx/2017/psitransfer-installation/

                                  It's a dockerized node app so should be simple to package for Cloudron, I'd guess.

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    @3246 said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                    Jirafeau (also, I can never remember how to spell it)

                                    Why do you need to know how to spell it? e.g. I have my instance installed at https://fileshare.domain.tld

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                                    #17

                                    @jdaviescoates said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                    Why do you need to know how to spell it? e.g. I have my instance installed at https://fileshare.domain.tld

                                    It was meant as a bit of a joke, yes I have called it wetransfer.domain.tld because most folks here know what that means 🙂

                                    👉 Find our more www.bebraver.online

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                                      @jdaviescoates said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                      Why do you need to know how to spell it? e.g. I have my instance installed at https://fileshare.domain.tld

                                      It was meant as a bit of a joke, yes I have called it wetransfer.domain.tld because most folks here know what that means 🙂

                                      jdaviescoatesJ Online
                                      jdaviescoatesJ Online
                                      jdaviescoates
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                                      #18

                                      @3246 said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                      @jdaviescoates said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                      Why do you need to know how to spell it? e.g. I have my instance installed at https://fileshare.domain.tld

                                      It was meant as a bit of a joke, yes I have called it wetransfer.domain.tld because most folks here know what that means 🙂

                                      🙂

                                      eb67c4f2-4356-479e-a7af-c7cf08a49da1-image.png

                                      😉

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @3246 I remember looking into this project before. Issue is that it has no concept of authentication. Essentially, you have to set up something where anyone can upload anything. This is dangerous especially for Cloudron because some DMCA notice or equivalent will ban your entire server and not just the send instance.

                                        See also https://github.com/timvisee/send/issues/32 and https://github.com/timvisee/send/issues/108 . IMO, best to just host this outside Cloudron in a separate server.

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                                        @girish Interesting point I never considered as I'd be using the Send app for known users and not publicising it. Although I am not stopping anyone who finds it from using it... something I should really curtail, but the risk of that is low.

                                        I think the DMCA issue can be tackled with a disclaimer before users install the app?

                                        👉 Find our more www.bebraver.online

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                                        • 32463 3246

                                          @girish Interesting point I never considered as I'd be using the Send app for known users and not publicising it. Although I am not stopping anyone who finds it from using it... something I should really curtail, but the risk of that is low.

                                          I think the DMCA issue can be tackled with a disclaimer before users install the app?

                                          jdaviescoatesJ Online
                                          jdaviescoatesJ Online
                                          jdaviescoates
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                                          #20

                                          @3246 said in Firefox Send - Simple, private file sharing from the makers of Firefox:

                                          I think the DMCA issue can be tackled with a disclaimer before users install the app?

                                          Yeah, and we already have Jirafeau and Surfer and Calibre Web and Emby and Jellyfin and SickChill and loads of other apps that could easily be used to share files you're technically not supposed to be sharing! (and frankly, almost certainly are being used to do exactly that)

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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