Any issues with including NetData on the root server and as an app add-on?
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I've had some time this week to work on this topic. So here is where I am at the moment.
I packaged an app for cloudron, it does seem to be working properly. (I let you guys have a look/test as it is my first try at packaging for cloudron)The only thing I can't get to work is the streaming part. (eg a child node stream to my cloudron node which is a parent), my best guess is that the reverse proxy used by cloudron doesn't send the tcp stream to the container but only http. But I don't know how to configure/fix that.
The netdata configuration file is in
/app/data/etcso to set up streaming you can add a filestream.confusing the file explorer and restart the appInfos I can give :
Command used to install :cloudron install --image cvachery/netdata-app:v1.44.1
Github : https://github.com/aylham/cloudron-netdata
Docker image :docker pull cvachery/netdata-app:v1.44.1
Netdata doc on how to setup streaming : https://learn.netdata.cloud/docs/streaming/understanding-how-streaming-works#enable-streaming-between-nodes@cvachery said in Any issues with including NetData on the root server and as an app add-on?:
Infos I can give :
Command used to install : cloudron install --image cvachery/netdata-app:v1.44.1
Github : https://github.com/aylham/cloudron-netdata
Docker image : docker pull cvachery/netdata-app:v1.44.1
Netdata doc on how to setup streaming : https://learn.netdata.cloud/docs/streaming/understanding-how-streaming-works#enable-streaming-between-nodesDo you provide the CloudronManifest.json somwhere?
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@cvachery said in Any issues with including NetData on the root server and as an app add-on?:
Infos I can give :
Command used to install : cloudron install --image cvachery/netdata-app:v1.44.1
Github : https://github.com/aylham/cloudron-netdata
Docker image : docker pull cvachery/netdata-app:v1.44.1
Netdata doc on how to setup streaming : https://learn.netdata.cloud/docs/streaming/understanding-how-streaming-works#enable-streaming-between-nodesDo you provide the CloudronManifest.json somwhere?
@Kubernetes it's in the repo at https://github.com/aylham/cloudron-netdata
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Sounds promising. Can someone please share how to install this app on my Cloudron? Thank you.
@d1rk This application package not being officially supported by the team, it means you'd need to follow the instructions from that package repo. However, you could use https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/tutorial/ as an example of what installing a custom application looks like.
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@cvachery this might be a general Cloudron backup issue. Does netdata create a lot of temporary files? If possible, change the directory where it changes those files to be outside the backup (like in /run or /tmp). A fix from the Cloudron side is coming (it's a bit complicated since we have to rewrite/replace a node module).
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After update and reboot of the Cloudron backup seems to be working OK now. So probably the bug you said on Cloudron side.
What would be the next steps to integrate it directly into Cloudron AppStore?
@cvachery said in Any issues with including NetData on the root server and as an app add-on?:
What would be the next steps to integrate it directly into Cloudron AppStore?
this is only blocked by us
we have a bunch of requirements for packages like having tests etc. So, each package takes time to get polished. If you are in the market for writing the tests, that will help speed things up definitely. But this is on top of the list for us (cc @vladimir-d ) -
@cvachery said in Any issues with including NetData on the root server and as an app add-on?:
What would be the next steps to integrate it directly into Cloudron AppStore?
this is only blocked by us
we have a bunch of requirements for packages like having tests etc. So, each package takes time to get polished. If you are in the market for writing the tests, that will help speed things up definitely. But this is on top of the list for us (cc @vladimir-d ) -
I know but that's because the cloudron login is just the proxyauth but that login button is for the cloud. There is no auth by default to access to webui (hence why I use the proxy auth)
The whole netdata UX is made to make you move to the cloud
Trying to clean that button (bumping to 1.45.0 at the same time) -
Just tried the current state of this package and mostly this seems to work. There is a ton of graphs and all, no clue who needs all this, but looks good for sure.
Before we get this out, can anyone here answer how this works in terms of public/private pages? By default all metrics are public and one can only hide them when logging into their https://app.netdata.cloud offering and binding that to the self-hosted one. Although actually https://app.netdata.cloud is essentially the same as the self-hosted. Further status links point to the upstream offering. All in all this looks a bit like the selfhosting is just an afterthought, but maybe I am mistaken, so anyone with more clarity on this, please shed some light on the topic.
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Just tried the current state of this package and mostly this seems to work. There is a ton of graphs and all, no clue who needs all this, but looks good for sure.
Before we get this out, can anyone here answer how this works in terms of public/private pages? By default all metrics are public and one can only hide them when logging into their https://app.netdata.cloud offering and binding that to the self-hosted one. Although actually https://app.netdata.cloud is essentially the same as the self-hosted. Further status links point to the upstream offering. All in all this looks a bit like the selfhosting is just an afterthought, but maybe I am mistaken, so anyone with more clarity on this, please shed some light on the topic.
@nebulon https://forum.cloudron.io/post/85552
as far as I know the agents have a GUI unsecured, but when installing on Cloudron you can App proxy them to secure. Then you can default "connect" them to the Netdata Cloud or change the config to "connect" them to your own central Agent that is "collecting" the data streams from itself and the connected agents.
