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  • J JLX89

    @marcusquinn Yeah, I was thinking about something like WordPress, but potentially being forced to use Multi Site, which might work depending on the plugins used.

    Essentially, I'm thinking something that can be logically segmented by topic area and the best example I can seem to come up with at the moment is https://learn.microsoft.com.

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    @JLX89 Could totally do that with WP. I've vast experience with themes & plugins, too, so pretty sure you could find a WP solution for all of the above, and certainly develop things if there were feature-needs gaps.

    If it were me, this is the way I'd go. Gutenberg has come of age, and I believe is going to remain the standard for CMS. It's also a portable skill everyone can find value in, is very well documented, and had abundant YouTube tutorials.

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      @JLX89 Could totally do that with WP. I've vast experience with themes & plugins, too, so pretty sure you could find a WP solution for all of the above, and certainly develop things if there were feature-needs gaps.

      If it were me, this is the way I'd go. Gutenberg has come of age, and I believe is going to remain the standard for CMS. It's also a portable skill everyone can find value in, is very well documented, and had abundant YouTube tutorials.

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      @marcusquinn Yeah, I was thinking along those lines too -- I appreciate it!

      Thinking it out a bit more, I was thinking about using WordPress as the "publishing and design" platform, and publishing the site as a Jamstack using Gatsby to Vercel to reduce the footprint.

      So far, I've only really found GitItWrite for publishing and pulling from GitHub. I'll have to take another look, but that plugin seems to have a lot of problems.

      Do you think using a Knowledgebase plugin would be best, or something like ACF or combination of the like? I'm still leaning towards probably using Multisite to segment things, unless I can change things up when pushing to Gastsby and out to Vercel or similar platform.

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        Some related plugins to the above:

        • https://printmy.blog/
        • https://code-block-pro.com/
        • https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mermaid/
        • https://wordpress.org/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/
        • https://wordpress.org/plugins/ultimate-markdown/

        UI Can be whatever you want it to be, especially with a WordPress theme like Kadence, or the latest Twenty-Twenty-Four + Full-Site Editing (Look up PootlePress vids on YouTube).

        In Gutenberg you can type with most markdown and it'll convert as you go. Blocks are very light HTML, and could be transcribed either way if really needed. Editor has native version-control. You can implement all sorts of publishing workflows and approvals.

        I mean, WordPress is arguable as big of an OS as Microsoft, and they use WordPress for their own documentation and forums. WordPress.com is actually one super-massive multi-site. Enterprise accepts it commonly nowadays. Most web agencies have consolidated onto it. FOSS. What's not to like? 🙂

        Does the scale of the project expectations have a budget to match?

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          Some related plugins to the above:

          • https://printmy.blog/
          • https://code-block-pro.com/
          • https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mermaid/
          • https://wordpress.org/plugins/advanced-custom-fields/
          • https://wordpress.org/plugins/ultimate-markdown/

          UI Can be whatever you want it to be, especially with a WordPress theme like Kadence, or the latest Twenty-Twenty-Four + Full-Site Editing (Look up PootlePress vids on YouTube).

          In Gutenberg you can type with most markdown and it'll convert as you go. Blocks are very light HTML, and could be transcribed either way if really needed. Editor has native version-control. You can implement all sorts of publishing workflows and approvals.

          I mean, WordPress is arguable as big of an OS as Microsoft, and they use WordPress for their own documentation and forums. WordPress.com is actually one super-massive multi-site. Enterprise accepts it commonly nowadays. Most web agencies have consolidated onto it. FOSS. What's not to like? 🙂

          Does the scale of the project expectations have a budget to match?

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          @marcusquinn That all seems good, I'll start experimenting with things

          @marcusquinn said in Tools for Massive Knowledge Base + Mind Mapping:

          Does the scale of the project expectations have a budget to match?

          To a point, starting small and working through it -- trying to get a proof of concept at the moment.

          I really appreciate it!

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          • J JLX89

            @marcusquinn Yeah, I was thinking along those lines too -- I appreciate it!

            Thinking it out a bit more, I was thinking about using WordPress as the "publishing and design" platform, and publishing the site as a Jamstack using Gatsby to Vercel to reduce the footprint.

            So far, I've only really found GitItWrite for publishing and pulling from GitHub. I'll have to take another look, but that plugin seems to have a lot of problems.

            Do you think using a Knowledgebase plugin would be best, or something like ACF or combination of the like? I'm still leaning towards probably using Multisite to segment things, unless I can change things up when pushing to Gastsby and out to Vercel or similar platform.

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            @JLX89 No need for JamStack, it's a glorified cache layer. Just making things difficult for yourself with that.

            I've worked on sites with millions of posts, completely optimisable for that. Can add ElasticSearch if needed for typo-tollerant searching. Can make the whole think mulilingual if needed.

            (Checkout brandlight.org as an example, although I do need to do some maintenance on it.)

            No need for a specific KB plugin, ACF covers all you need there.

            I don't understand the need for multi-site, when you can just use Post Types, Categories, and User Roles within one site.

            Not sure on the audience for this, and why GitHub would need to be involved, but the project ought to start with whatever is quickest and easiest for all.

            Feel free to DM me if I can help more. Knowledge is free, when I can find time, getting more involved, I'd have to understand the story more.

            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
            Development https://brandlight.org
            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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            • J JLX89

              @marcusquinn That all seems good, I'll start experimenting with things

              @marcusquinn said in Tools for Massive Knowledge Base + Mind Mapping:

              Does the scale of the project expectations have a budget to match?

              To a point, starting small and working through it -- trying to get a proof of concept at the moment.

              I really appreciate it!

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              @JLX89 There you go again, would be super-quick to make a POC with WP, don't throw time at something that doesn't have a high chance of a significant return for the effort though, or make it look too easy, since the challenges of massive documentation projects are more in training than they are in the stack.

              Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
              Development https://brandlight.org
              Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                @girish I've thought about this for a while. I wonder if the forum and users would benefit from having a "Commercial Projects" section? Where people could posts projects like the above, and invite interest for collaborations, consulting, recruitment, etc?

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                  If your content is composable, https://www.sanity.io is the way to go.

                  Conscious tech

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                    @JLX89 how goes your adventure so far?
                    Did you succeed with WordPress? If yes I'm eager to have more detail as I'm planning a similar workflow but was exploring Markdown with Git and Quarto or Hugo.

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                      For just the Mind Mapping aspect, this WiseMapping looks pretty good:

                      https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12024/wisemapping

                      AppFlowly looks promising for a Knowledge Base:

                      https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6088/appflowy

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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