Airbyte

[jdaviescoates]

@cdrm these are two different apps and so you really ought to separate these out into two separate requests.

[girish]

I have moved dagster to https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/10704/dagster

[chrisbol]

Airbyte would be a great addition, it is a great open source replacement for Fivetran and Stitch

[LoudLemur]

ETL?
Licence?
Docker?

[cdrm]

Licence:
https://docs.airbyte.com/developer-guides/licenses/license-faq

It uses the ELv2 licence, the main resetriction being that you cannot sell the app as a "managed service". I suppose cloudron's automatic updates would constitute a breach of the licence?

What if patching was left to the cloudron user?

[timconsidine]

Is Cloudron a “managed service” ?
Doesn’t seem so to me.
User deploys Cloudron on their own resources.

[necrevistonnezr]

@timconsidine Of course it is a managed service if the owner of the Cloudron instance hosts apps / software and lets others use it (commercially or non-commercially, depends) - many here do (e.g. let customers use a Wordpress instance against a fee etc.etc.).

I have pointed out many times that we have a similar problem with Hashicorp Vault, now TL Draw. More and more software projects allow personal use but do not allow to host their apps and let others use it; as - understandably IMHO - hosting the application and thus taking from customers the pain of maintaining it is the only viable income.

[timconsidine]

@necrevistonnezr I wasn't talking about that.

I questioned whether CLOUDRON itself (the business) is a managed service.

Yes if I use Cloudron (the software) to provide a hosted service, let's call it XYZ, then XYZ is a managed service. But that doesn't make Cloudron (the business) a managed service, it's a component of the service.

If Cloudron (the business) is deemed to be providing a managed service when I deploy the software, then so would e.g. Ubuntu if I use that.

IMO Cloudron (the business) is not providing a managed service.

[necrevistonnezr]

Yes, that is correct - but Cloudron provides all the tools (install script, customized app package) to allow such use against the license - that can be a legal problem

[timconsidine]

@necrevistonnezr I agree it is down to interpretation.
But it is a slippery slope.
If a restricted-licence package has Docker deployment (hosted on hub.docker.com), is Docker the company in breach of the licence ? The VPS provider ? Ubuntu (as the OS on the the VPS)?
Personally I would tend to a more restricted interpretation of who is actually deploying and hosting and making available the package.

[toja]

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