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What's coming in 8.0

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      girish
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      wrote on last edited by girish
      #1

      We are working on the following for 8.0

      • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

      • Support servers without AVX again.

      • Various dashboard UI improvements

        • Update font and colors
        • Implement list view for app (alongside grid view)
        • Have '/' as shortcut for search
        • Rework the filter UI
      • Implement setting a default background image for login screen

      • OIDC

        • Initial login of admin and normal user should get an OIDC session
        • Make proxyAuth use OIDC
      • app

        • Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
        • Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.
        • Add per-app checklist/notes
      • Graphs

        • possibly replace graphite to make graphs useful
        • implement live graphs
      • Remove unbound dependency and use the system resolver

      • Backup/restore progress

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        nebulon
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        #2

        For Cloudrons with lots of apps, we have added a list view now besides the install apps grid view:

        image.png

        This will allow better sorting and is tailored towards admins mostly.

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          AartJansen
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          Oh cool, if you're doing new graphs any chance of adding network traffic ?

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            girish
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            #4

            @AartJansen yes, that would be great to have too. But first priority is to have any kind of live graph....

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              #5

              @girish

              Do you mean MongoDB without requiring AVX ? URL to that MongoDB download ?

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              • xet7X xet7

                @girish

                Do you mean MongoDB without requiring AVX ? URL to that MongoDB download ?

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                jdaviescoates
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                @xet7 no, they mean running Cloudron without MongoDB and not using any apps that require it, but still being able to use everything else.

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  What @jdaviescoates said. MongoDB will simply not run and when you try to install an app that requires mongodb, it will show an error message saying 'AVX is required'.

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                  • girishG girish

                    What @jdaviescoates said. MongoDB will simply not run and when you try to install an app that requires mongodb, it will show an error message saying 'AVX is required'.

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                    @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                    when you try to install an app that requires mongodb, it will show an error message saying 'AVX is required'.

                    Hopefully it'll actually say something a lot clearer than that given many will have no idea what that means. Like "Unfortunately you cannot install this app because it requires mongodb which is unable to run on your server because your server doesn't support AVX" so something.

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • girishG girish

                      We are working on the following for 8.0

                      • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

                      • Support servers without AVX again.

                      • Various dashboard UI improvements

                        • Update font and colors
                        • Implement list view for app (alongside grid view)
                        • Have '/' as shortcut for search
                        • Rework the filter UI
                      • Implement setting a default background image for login screen

                      • OIDC

                        • Initial login of admin and normal user should get an OIDC session
                        • Make proxyAuth use OIDC
                      • app

                        • Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
                        • Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.
                        • Add per-app checklist/notes
                      • Graphs

                        • possibly replace graphite to make graphs useful
                        • implement live graphs
                      • Remove unbound dependency and use the system resolver

                      • Backup/restore progress

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                      girish
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                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                      Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
                      Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.

                      This is implemented now.

                      f5fae171-c716-420f-aebe-e01fc1a93d98-image.png

                      The memory limit now just specifies how much max RAM the app can use. Apps now use whatever swap is available in the system. We don't set any limits. From testing, this seems to be the best configuration.

                      CPU limit is the max percentage CPU app can use. 100% means all the cores. If you set it to 50%, it will only ever use half the cores max. By default, app can use, max CPU.

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                      • girishG girish

                        We are working on the following for 8.0

                        • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

                        • Support servers without AVX again.

                        • Various dashboard UI improvements

                          • Update font and colors
                          • Implement list view for app (alongside grid view)
                          • Have '/' as shortcut for search
                          • Rework the filter UI
                        • Implement setting a default background image for login screen

                        • OIDC

                          • Initial login of admin and normal user should get an OIDC session
                          • Make proxyAuth use OIDC
                        • app

                          • Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
                          • Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.
                          • Add per-app checklist/notes
                        • Graphs

                          • possibly replace graphite to make graphs useful
                          • implement live graphs
                        • Remove unbound dependency and use the system resolver

                        • Backup/restore progress

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                        girish
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #10

                        @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                        Support servers without AVX again.

                        When installed on servers without AVX, the MongoDB will just show as disabled like below. If you click restart button, it will show an error like below:

                        3b780454-eab9-4135-b847-c27568356f9c-image.png

                        When you try to install an app that requires MongoDB:
                        1807bf9e-840f-4d62-b970-6248c4935e4a-image.png

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                          uwcrbc
                          wrote on last edited by uwcrbc
                          #11

                          Regarding the various UI / Dashboard improvements, could I plea to also add something like this:
                          https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8745/my-apps-dashboard-ux-tailoring-apps-category

                          This would make a significant difference in our approach in providing an apps portal.

                          In any case, the already mentioned upcoming changes sound great.

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                            girish
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                            #12

                            deSEC integration is now implemented.

                            image.png

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                              wrote on last edited by girish
                              #13

                              Couple more features have landed:

                              • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS support
                              • Removed unbound as system resolver. unbound is still used internally and will get totally replaced in some future release. systemd-resolved will be the resolver for all the addon and app containers. mail container will continue to use unbound for DNSBL lookups.
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                                plusone-nick
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                                Regarding Dashboard features - can we get pretty much everything that https://dashy.to/ is doing? ๐Ÿ™ƒ๐Ÿ˜… Really good reference

                                โœŒ๐Ÿ’™+1

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                                • girishG girish

                                  Couple more features have landed:

                                  • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS support
                                  • Removed unbound as system resolver. unbound is still used internally and will get totally replaced in some future release. systemd-resolved will be the resolver for all the addon and app containers. mail container will continue to use unbound for DNSBL lookups.
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                                  necrevistonnezr
                                  wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                                  #15

                                  @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                                  • Removed unbound as system resolver.

                                  I hope this will make things easier for you as a non-running unbound seems to be he source of so many reported errors in this forumโ€ฆ.

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                                    Now just ban Firefox and youโ€˜re all set ๐Ÿ•

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                                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                      @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                                      • Removed unbound as system resolver.

                                      I hope this will make things easier for you as a non-running unbound seems to be he source of so many reported errors in this forumโ€ฆ.

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                                      girish
                                      Staff
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #17

                                      @necrevistonnezr yeah, the top 3 issues are backups, unbound and graphs. Hopefully, we fix it all in 8.0 and we can retire ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                      • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                        Now just ban Firefox and youโ€˜re all set ๐Ÿ•

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                                        nebulon
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                                        @necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 8.0:

                                        Now just ban Firefox and youโ€˜re all set ๐Ÿ•

                                        since we mostly use Firefox here, it is more related to those security/privacy extensions which are sometimes just too aggressive. Similarly the various privacy related chrome variants cause much side-effects ๐Ÿ˜•

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                                        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                                          Now just ban Firefox and youโ€˜re all set ๐Ÿ•

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                                          @necrevistonnezr whats wrong with firefox ?

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                                            #20

                                            @AartJansen
                                            A few of the many examples of bug reports that turned out to be Firefox: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/74973

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