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  • girishG girish

    We are working on the following for 8.0

    • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

    • Support servers without AVX again.

    • Various dashboard UI improvements

      • Update font and colors
      • Implement list view for app (alongside grid view)
      • Have '/' as shortcut for search
      • Rework the filter UI
    • Implement setting a default background image for login screen

    • OIDC

      • Initial login of admin and normal user should get an OIDC session
      • Make proxyAuth use OIDC
    • app

      • Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
      • Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.
      • Add per-app checklist/notes
    • Graphs

      • possibly replace graphite to make graphs useful
      • implement live graphs
    • Remove unbound dependency and use the system resolver

    • Backup/restore progress

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    girish
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    wrote on last edited by
    #9

    @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

    Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
    Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.

    This is implemented now.

    f5fae171-c716-420f-aebe-e01fc1a93d98-image.png

    The memory limit now just specifies how much max RAM the app can use. Apps now use whatever swap is available in the system. We don't set any limits. From testing, this seems to be the best configuration.

    CPU limit is the max percentage CPU app can use. 100% means all the cores. If you set it to 50%, it will only ever use half the cores max. By default, app can use, max CPU.

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    • girishG girish

      We are working on the following for 8.0

      • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

      • Support servers without AVX again.

      • Various dashboard UI improvements

        • Update font and colors
        • Implement list view for app (alongside grid view)
        • Have '/' as shortcut for search
        • Rework the filter UI
      • Implement setting a default background image for login screen

      • OIDC

        • Initial login of admin and normal user should get an OIDC session
        • Make proxyAuth use OIDC
      • app

        • Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
        • Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.
        • Add per-app checklist/notes
      • Graphs

        • possibly replace graphite to make graphs useful
        • implement live graphs
      • Remove unbound dependency and use the system resolver

      • Backup/restore progress

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      girish
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      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

      Support servers without AVX again.

      When installed on servers without AVX, the MongoDB will just show as disabled like below. If you click restart button, it will show an error like below:

      3b780454-eab9-4135-b847-c27568356f9c-image.png

      When you try to install an app that requires MongoDB:
      1807bf9e-840f-4d62-b970-6248c4935e4a-image.png

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        uwcrbc
        wrote on last edited by uwcrbc
        #11

        Regarding the various UI / Dashboard improvements, could I plea to also add something like this:
        https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8745/my-apps-dashboard-ux-tailoring-apps-category

        This would make a significant difference in our approach in providing an apps portal.

        In any case, the already mentioned upcoming changes sound great.

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          girish
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          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          deSEC integration is now implemented.

          image.png

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            girish
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            wrote on last edited by girish
            #13

            Couple more features have landed:

            • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS support
            • Removed unbound as system resolver. unbound is still used internally and will get totally replaced in some future release. systemd-resolved will be the resolver for all the addon and app containers. mail container will continue to use unbound for DNSBL lookups.
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              plusone-nick
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              Regarding Dashboard features - can we get pretty much everything that https://dashy.to/ is doing? 🙃😅 Really good reference

              ✌💙+1

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              • girishG girish

                Couple more features have landed:

                • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS support
                • Removed unbound as system resolver. unbound is still used internally and will get totally replaced in some future release. systemd-resolved will be the resolver for all the addon and app containers. mail container will continue to use unbound for DNSBL lookups.
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                necrevistonnezr
                wrote on last edited by necrevistonnezr
                #15

                @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                • Removed unbound as system resolver.

                I hope this will make things easier for you as a non-running unbound seems to be he source of so many reported errors in this forum….

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                  #16

                  Now just ban Firefox and you‘re all set 🐕

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                  • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                    @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                    • Removed unbound as system resolver.

                    I hope this will make things easier for you as a non-running unbound seems to be he source of so many reported errors in this forum….

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                    girish
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                    #17

                    @necrevistonnezr yeah, the top 3 issues are backups, unbound and graphs. Hopefully, we fix it all in 8.0 and we can retire 😄

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                    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                      Now just ban Firefox and you‘re all set 🐕

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                      nebulon
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                      @necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 8.0:

                      Now just ban Firefox and you‘re all set 🐕

                      since we mostly use Firefox here, it is more related to those security/privacy extensions which are sometimes just too aggressive. Similarly the various privacy related chrome variants cause much side-effects 😕

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                      • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                        Now just ban Firefox and you‘re all set 🐕

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                        @necrevistonnezr whats wrong with firefox ?

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                          #20

                          @AartJansen
                          A few of the many examples of bug reports that turned out to be Firefox: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/74973

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                            Now just ban Firefox and you‘re all set 🐕

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                            paradoxbound
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                            @necrevistonnezr
                            If they ban Firefox they have lost a customer.

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                              necrevistonnezr
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                              Oh, I guess the subtlety of the irony here was just too overwhelming 🙂

                              Also: I don't speak for the team, I'm just a customer.

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                                @necrevistonnezr
                                If they ban Firefox they have lost a customer.

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                                nebulon
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                                @paradoxbound said in What's coming in 8.0:

                                @necrevistonnezr
                                If they ban Firefox they have lost a customer.

                                Very unlikely we would do such a thing. I only use Firefox in fact. Issues with browsers are mainly due to privacy extensions not so much the browser itself. I guess Firefox users just happen to use more of those which makes it look like the browser has issues.

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                                  krumel
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                                  Hi,
                                  I know developers rightfully hate nothing more than "are we there yet/when are you done" questions, but could you give a rough guess how far 8.0 is away currently?

                                  We will need to move two servers and while we still got a bit of time a rough guess would enable us to decide if it's worth installing the current version or wait for 8.0 and do a clean Ubuntu 24.04 LTS(which would make a few other things easier for us). We are totally happy to wait (it's done when it's done), but I would hate to install two new installations and then 8.0 comes out 3 days later.

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                                    Dark-mode for the filemanager has landed now for 8.0 also:

                                    image.png

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                                      Hopefully it will be easy to fix and it's only on my side; but ...
                                      after an update, which seams to be done successfully

                                      my apps runs but I have no Cloudron Dashboard
                                      my.domain.tld is blank; even with Chrome and Safari (which I never use)

                                      Server: Ubuntu 22.04LTS
                                      Cloudron: 8.0
                                      rebooted after update

                                      Screen Shot 2024-06-28 at 11.17.31.png

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                                        @JOduMonT is there anything in the log file at /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/box.log which might hint at an error? Otherwise, maybe you can send us a mail to support@cloudron.io and enable remote SSH for us to debug this directly?

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          We are working on the following for 8.0

                                          • Ubuntu 24.04 LTS

                                          • Support servers without AVX again.

                                          • Various dashboard UI improvements

                                            • Update font and colors
                                            • Implement list view for app (alongside grid view)
                                            • Have '/' as shortcut for search
                                            • Rework the filter UI
                                          • Implement setting a default background image for login screen

                                          • OIDC

                                            • Initial login of admin and normal user should get an OIDC session
                                            • Make proxyAuth use OIDC
                                          • app

                                            • Allow apps to have unlimited swap. Redefine memoryLimit and the slider in the app's resource section to be RAM.
                                            • Remove CPU shares and instead implement CPU quota. This will prevent apps from consuming 100% CPU.
                                            • Add per-app checklist/notes
                                          • Graphs

                                            • possibly replace graphite to make graphs useful
                                            • implement live graphs
                                          • Remove unbound dependency and use the system resolver

                                          • Backup/restore progress

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                                          scooke
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @girish said in What's coming in 8.0:

                                          We are working on the following for 8.0

                                          Support servers without AVX again.

                                          I have 2 servers running 7.7.2. Will I be able to upgrade from this straight to 8.0?

                                          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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