Multiple on-premise cloudrons on the same internet connection?

[humptydumpty]

I've been running a homeserver for a while and feel more confident in self-hosting's reliability now, so I'm thinking of offloading most of my work apps from a VPS to an on-premise Cloudron server. However, I don't want all the apps on the same Cloudron/hardware. I've been wanting to use Mastodon at work, but I keep reading issues regarding storage, so I don't want it to affect the rest of my work apps and would prefer to have it on a server by itself.

• Is it possible to have two Cloudrons running on different hardware at my office on a single internet connection?
• Do I need two IP's?
• What setup steps are involved that differ from a standard Cloudron install?

[luckow]

From my point of view and experience with German internet providers, your local network is behind a kind of fritz.box. From what I have learnt about the fritz.box, there is only one IP address for the so-called exposed host.
This exposed host is you Cloudron instance. Maybe there are other options if you use ipv6, which I don't have active on my local network.

I don't think this is a real option, but you can think about installing Guacomole on your exposed host to reach other instances on your local network. But you need to figure out how to set up the certificate challenge with the other Cloudron instance that is not the exposed host. Once you solve this, please let me know the process in this thread

[girish]

Technically, one can have a reverse proxy and have any number of Cloudrons behind it (i.e to share the same IPv4). Practically, this setup is too complex for us to support. Home networks have all sorts of strange routers and it's not easy to debug things and support is impossible to provide in our price range. Because of this, Cloudron doesn't support multiple Cloudrons behind a single IPv4.

Now, in Cloudron 8, we are getting IPv6 only support. If you are OK with server having only IPv6, this will work quite well in next release.

[humptydumpty]

@girish I'm okay with IPv6 only, but I don't really know if there are any downfalls to that set up. I'm assuming it might be problematic for mail servers, right? If so, that's fine with me because I'll be using a relay any way. If it makes any difference, I intend on having two Cloudrons at my office on a business internet plan/router. In any case, I'll wait for CR 8.

[girish]

@humptydumpty the main pitfall is that it cannot be reached from IPv4 only networks. There are still many networks out there like cafes, public wifis etc which are IPv4 only.