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  • L LoudLemur

    @girish Is this ready to be included as an experimental status Cloudron application yet?

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    wrote on last edited by
    #57

    @LoudLemur I don't think so - at least not yet. Unable to get it to install cleanly on my CR server, but I think it's close.

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    • njN nj

      @luckow did you try logging in for the second time? As I have mentioned, first-time login still fails. Also if you could raise an issue on Github with the contents of “/run/logs/odoo.log” as soon as you log in, I can look into it.

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      LoudLemur
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      @nj

      What is the latest on installing Odoo? Is it ready as a Cloudron Beta application yet?

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      • L LoudLemur

        @nj

        What is the latest on installing Odoo? Is it ready as a Cloudron Beta application yet?

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        wrote on last edited by
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        @LoudLemur nope.
        but it's been working as a custom app on one of my instances for a few weeks. to get an idea of how odoo works and what you need to learn to implement an erp system in your company, it's top. as a reliable critical app for your company (without knowledge about content migration), you should wait until odoo is an official cloudron app.

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        • luckowL luckow

          @LoudLemur nope.
          but it's been working as a custom app on one of my instances for a few weeks. to get an idea of how odoo works and what you need to learn to implement an erp system in your company, it's top. as a reliable critical app for your company (without knowledge about content migration), you should wait until odoo is an official cloudron app.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #60

          @luckow When that day happens, I shall be grinning from ear to ear! I shall probably be jumping up and down in joy too!

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          • njN nj

            I have packaged Odoo successfully.
            Please check out http://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo

            I had to patch the default Database connection function to prevent Odoo from connecting to the database named “postgres” from different places.

            Otherwise, everything is working as expected. Simply clone the repo, and then from inside the repo, run

            cloudoron build
            cloudron install -l <subdomain.yourcloudron.tld>
            

            Please post any error logs or problems here so I can continue to improve it.

            Update: somehow LDAP login is failing; need to look into it.

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            #61

            @nj thanks for your packaging efforts! I just tried to run odoo and it wouldn't start, it was always looping the First run. Initializing DB... bit. I've jumped in the terminal and ran the cmds manually and eventually figured out, that the /app/data needed chowning to the cloudron-user before it worked - which it now does! So all we need to do is add /app/data/ to https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo/blob/main/start.sh#L17

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            • M msbt

              @nj thanks for your packaging efforts! I just tried to run odoo and it wouldn't start, it was always looping the First run. Initializing DB... bit. I've jumped in the terminal and ran the cmds manually and eventually figured out, that the /app/data needed chowning to the cloudron-user before it worked - which it now does! So all we need to do is add /app/data/ to https://github.com/njsubedi/cloudron-odoo/blob/main/start.sh#L17

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              makemrproper
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              @msbt Odoo Community edition hosted on Cloudron would be a massive value add to the Cloudron portfolio. I totally recommend using Cloudron in a business to structure and improve processes. Unless your company has the budget to run Salesforce, or Service Now to do the same.

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              • M makemrproper

                @msbt Odoo Community edition hosted on Cloudron would be a massive value add to the Cloudron portfolio. I totally recommend using Cloudron in a business to structure and improve processes. Unless your company has the budget to run Salesforce, or Service Now to do the same.

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                LoudLemur
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                #63

                @makemrproper There is a large and active development community for Odoo. I think it would be quite excited to hear about a Beta of Odoo on Cloudron and they could contribute quite a lot. Hopefully, the other great applications available on Cloudron would catch their notice too, and people would join us.

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  Open source ERP and CRM

                  https://www.odoo.com/
                  https://github.com/odoo/odoo.

                  https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/app-requests/issues/8

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                  #64

                  @nebulon
                  I hope we are still making progress on supporting Odoo Community Edition on Cloudron.

                  I think Cloudron users are aware of how powerful a tool Cloudron is. Odoo is a bit like Cloudron, in that it offers one click deployment of modules.

                  Unlike Cloudron, all the modules on Odoo are built to be interoperable. They push data to each other as needed, populating fields and helping you with auto-fill and reducing laboriousness of many manual tasks.

                  If you are familiar with Nextcloud (which is of course on Cloudron) then you will be right at home with Odoo.

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                  • L LoudLemur

                    @nebulon
                    I hope we are still making progress on supporting Odoo Community Edition on Cloudron.

                    I think Cloudron users are aware of how powerful a tool Cloudron is. Odoo is a bit like Cloudron, in that it offers one click deployment of modules.

                    Unlike Cloudron, all the modules on Odoo are built to be interoperable. They push data to each other as needed, populating fields and helping you with auto-fill and reducing laboriousness of many manual tasks.

                    If you are familiar with Nextcloud (which is of course on Cloudron) then you will be right at home with Odoo.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #65

                    @LoudLemur I too hope to see odoo in Cloudron soon. A lot of things would be simplified for us.

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      Open source ERP and CRM

                      https://www.odoo.com/
                      https://github.com/odoo/odoo.

                      https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/app-requests/issues/8

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                      #66

                      @nebulon What is the latest on packaging Odoo for Cloudron? Is there any more progress?

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                      • L LoudLemur

                        @nebulon What is the latest on packaging Odoo for Cloudron? Is there any more progress?

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #67

                        @LoudLemur looks like no one is working on this 😢

                        It seems @nj and @samir managed to package it, but I have no idea how to test a custom app

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                        • mdreiraM mdreira

                          @LoudLemur looks like no one is working on this 😢

                          It seems @nj and @samir managed to package it, but I have no idea how to test a custom app

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                          LoudLemur
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @mdreira

                          Come on, Cloudron team, please help the last stage of having Odoo supported on Cloudron!

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                          • nebulonN nebulon

                            Open source ERP and CRM

                            https://www.odoo.com/
                            https://github.com/odoo/odoo.

                            https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/app-requests/issues/8

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                            LoudLemur
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                            #69

                            @nebulon

                            This App request was made over 4 year ago. It is still a brilliant suggestion.

                            Odoo 16 has just been released. You can see the new features in the following videos:

                            Meet Odoo 16 - All the New Features:
                            https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RVFZL3D9plg

                            What is new in Odoo 16 - Keynote:
                            https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UhEqLlbeLzM

                            Odoo 16 Release Notes:
                            https://www.odoo.com/odoo-16-release-notes

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                            • L LoudLemur

                              @nebulon

                              This App request was made over 4 year ago. It is still a brilliant suggestion.

                              Odoo 16 has just been released. You can see the new features in the following videos:

                              Meet Odoo 16 - All the New Features:
                              https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RVFZL3D9plg

                              What is new in Odoo 16 - Keynote:
                              https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UhEqLlbeLzM

                              Odoo 16 Release Notes:
                              https://www.odoo.com/odoo-16-release-notes

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #70

                              @LoudLemur Odoo is not an easy app to selfhost. And to add to that, it's non-trivial to make keep this app updated and help people migrate across versions (like they expect Cloudron apps to) with our current pricing model and target group. Odoo itself is a framework to run apps and each app has it's own updates. It's all very complex.

                              Not to say we won't package this, but it's not a priority.

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                              • L LoudLemur

                                @nebulon

                                This App request was made over 4 year ago. It is still a brilliant suggestion.

                                Odoo 16 has just been released. You can see the new features in the following videos:

                                Meet Odoo 16 - All the New Features:
                                https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RVFZL3D9plg

                                What is new in Odoo 16 - Keynote:
                                https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UhEqLlbeLzM

                                Odoo 16 Release Notes:
                                https://www.odoo.com/odoo-16-release-notes

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                                #71

                                @LoudLemur do you possibly have a business case here?

                                I mean that if you have Odoo working, it would allow you to do X, which will give you an opportunity do Y, so it will generate you Z amount of money and hence you are ready to pay W for that?

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                                • girishG girish

                                  @LoudLemur Odoo is not an easy app to selfhost. And to add to that, it's non-trivial to make keep this app updated and help people migrate across versions (like they expect Cloudron apps to) with our current pricing model and target group. Odoo itself is a framework to run apps and each app has it's own updates. It's all very complex.

                                  Not to say we won't package this, but it's not a priority.

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                                  mdreira
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                                  wrote on last edited by
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                                  @girish Your answer already takes away all my hope. 😭

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    @LoudLemur Odoo is not an easy app to selfhost. And to add to that, it's non-trivial to make keep this app updated and help people migrate across versions (like they expect Cloudron apps to) with our current pricing model and target group. Odoo itself is a framework to run apps and each app has it's own updates. It's all very complex.

                                    Not to say we won't package this, but it's not a priority.

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                                    wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                                    #73

                                    @girish said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

                                    Odoo is not an easy app to selfhost.

                                    And I kinda wonder if it is suitable for a VPS running Cloudron which is running probably quite a few other apps.
                                    Maybe totally fine if you have a beefy VPS.
                                    But I wonder how many do have spare resources to that extent.

                                    Any ERP package tends to have its own ecosystem, and my guess would be best installed on a standalone VPS.
                                    Doesn't a key business resource deserve its own home?
                                    That's how I would tackle it anyway. If I ever have to something ERP-like.
                                    Hope not. Wasted too many years on them.

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      @LoudLemur Odoo is not an easy app to selfhost. And to add to that, it's non-trivial to make keep this app updated and help people migrate across versions (like they expect Cloudron apps to) with our current pricing model and target group. Odoo itself is a framework to run apps and each app has it's own updates. It's all very complex.

                                      Not to say we won't package this, but it's not a priority.

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                                      #74

                                      @girish said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

                                      @LoudLemur Odoo is not an easy app to selfhost. And to add to that, it's non-trivial to make keep this app updated and help people migrate across versions (like they expect Cloudron apps to) with our current pricing model and target group. Odoo itself is a framework to run apps and each app has it's own updates. It's all very complex.

                                      Not to say we won't package this, but it's not a priority.

                                      I think Odoo becomes complex when it is customized, which usually happens through use of Odoo Studio, a proprietary component which is not available in the Community Edition.

                                      I see Odoo as being quite like NextCloud, which Cloudron already supports. Odoo refers to its various components as modules. Odoo modules are more like extensions that can be added, rather than additional applications. Some Cloudron applications like NodeBB have a Calendar extension, for example.

                                      All the official Odoo modules work out of the box with the unmodified Odoo. Once a year, there is a big, new, Odoo release. That release is designed so that upgrades from the earlier version ought to work smoothly, with just a click.

                                      Many experienced users of Odoo say the secret to a happy life with it is to stick to unmodified versions. I think that sort of support, an annual update, might be something Cloudron could achieve without too much difficulty, once the initial packaging was completed.

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                                      • timconsidineT timconsidine

                                        @girish said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

                                        Odoo is not an easy app to selfhost.

                                        And I kinda wonder if it is suitable for a VPS running Cloudron which is running probably quite a few other apps.
                                        Maybe totally fine if you have a beefy VPS.
                                        But I wonder how many do have spare resources to that extent.

                                        Any ERP package tends to have its own ecosystem, and my guess would be best installed on a standalone VPS.
                                        Doesn't a key business resource deserve its own home?
                                        That's how I would tackle it anyway. If I ever have to something ERP-like.
                                        Hope not. Wasted too many years on them.

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                                        @timconsidine said in Odoo - distributed business apps:

                                        That's how I would tackle it anyway. If I ever have to something ERP-like.
                                        Hope not. Wasted too many years on them.

                                        Hi, I wonder what it was that eventually led you away from using ERPs.

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                                        • potemkin_aiP potemkin_ai

                                          @LoudLemur do you possibly have a business case here?

                                          I mean that if you have Odoo working, it would allow you to do X, which will give you an opportunity do Y, so it will generate you Z amount of money and hence you are ready to pay W for that?

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                                          @potemkin_ai

                                          It is just that I like the way Odoo integrates several different functionalities into one structure and pushes information between the various modules. If Odoo were more easily deployable, more people could use it to, for example, manage their own lives and take care of their families efficiently.

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