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What's coming in 9.1

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  • girishG girish

    We will be working on the following for 9.1:

    • Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages.
    • Community packages - can be installed from a URL via the dashboard. Cloudron will track the upstream URL and automatically check for and apply updates. Will allow people to publish outside Cloudron App store and users can easily install these packages and keep them automatically updated. For discovery, we will maintain a list either on the forum or in the documentation (TBD).
    • Separate notifications view
    • Mongodb 8, Redis 8.4, Nodejs 24.x
    • Acme ARI support
    • Backup Integrity verification UI
    • Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations.
    • Convert backup site creation dialog to a view
    • Better eventlog UI
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    girish
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    wrote last edited by
    #25

    said in What's coming in 9.1:

    Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations.
    Convert backup site creation dialog to a view

    Save these two, other features are implemented. Work has started on getting 9.1 release out.

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    • jamesJ james

      Hello @nostrdev
      We have tested the passkey support with the Bitwarden browser extension, YubiKey 5, Nitrokey and native support from some browsers and operating systems like Windows, Apple and Linux.
      Please note, we implemented passkey support and not the full WebAuthn/FIDO2 specification available options.

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      wrote last edited by nostrdev
      #26

      @james

      Using Bitwarden means keeping your secret on a potentially compromised device. Better to use a hardware key.

      The problem with both Yubikey and Nitrokey is that if you lose the device, you lose the key. Big problem.

      The fact you cannot recover a passkey, make those devices a pass, from us. Or at least, they must be used in a far more careful and limited fashion - ie, fallback to email recovery - than what would otherwise be the case (sovereign recovery).

      With Trezor - and other hardware wallets that use deterministic webAuthN - you can recover from a seed. This means that the loss of a device is not catastrophic.

      EDIT: Am reading the Trezor forums and apparently they do support Passkeys, it's just that the Resident Key is encrypted with the seed, and not deterministically generated. So for recovery, you just back up the file using regular cloud storage.

      Looking forward to testing it on cloudron, and letting you all know the results.

      https://trezor.io/guides/bonus-tools/what-is-fido2

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        murgero
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        wrote last edited by
        #27

        I'm so excited for this build. The ability to install 3rd party apps easily via the admin panel is a game changer for us devs - also passkey support will be amazing for those of us using bitwarden / other passkey apps

        --
        https://urgero.org
        ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~

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        • girishG girish

          We will be working on the following for 9.1:

          • Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages.
          • Community packages - can be installed from a URL via the dashboard. Cloudron will track the upstream URL and automatically check for and apply updates. Will allow people to publish outside Cloudron App store and users can easily install these packages and keep them automatically updated. For discovery, we will maintain a list either on the forum or in the documentation (TBD).
          • Separate notifications view
          • Mongodb 8, Redis 8.4, Nodejs 24.x
          • Acme ARI support
          • Backup Integrity verification UI
          • Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations.
          • Convert backup site creation dialog to a view
          • Better eventlog UI
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          wrote last edited by
          #28

          @girish said in What's coming in 9.1:

          Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages

          Is there any improvement for integrating this in a CI/CD pipeline? If I understand correctly it would mean we can do without using a container registry by default?

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          • ruihildtR ruihildt

            @girish said in What's coming in 9.1:

            Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages

            Is there any improvement for integrating this in a CI/CD pipeline? If I understand correctly it would mean we can do without using a container registry by default?

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            #29

            Hello @ruihildt

            Yes. You will be able to simply run cloudron install --location $LOCATION from a CI/CD and the app will be installed on the target Cloudron.

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            • girishG girish

              We will be working on the following for 9.1:

              • Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages.
              • Community packages - can be installed from a URL via the dashboard. Cloudron will track the upstream URL and automatically check for and apply updates. Will allow people to publish outside Cloudron App store and users can easily install these packages and keep them automatically updated. For discovery, we will maintain a list either on the forum or in the documentation (TBD).
              • Separate notifications view
              • Mongodb 8, Redis 8.4, Nodejs 24.x
              • Acme ARI support
              • Backup Integrity verification UI
              • Improved progress reporting - show percentage complete and elapsed/estimated time for backups and app installations.
              • Convert backup site creation dialog to a view
              • Better eventlog UI
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              wrote last edited by
              #30

              @girish said in What's coming in 9.1:

              Community packages - can be installed from a URL via the dashboard. Cloudron will track the upstream URL and automatically check for and apply updates. Will allow people to publish outside Cloudron App store and users can easily install these packages and keep them automatically updated. For discovery, we will maintain a list either on the forum or in the documentation (TBD).

              Just my 2 cents: It's great that several people, mostly @timconsidine are packaging so many interesting apps. Bear in mind though, maintaining and supporting such apps after the initial packaging is a whole different ballgame.
              The Cloudron team currently provides excellent support for their apps, in fact so good, that you see people looking for support in this forum that don't use Cloudron.
              If one or two persons, who don't get paid package apps, you can't expect the same kind of support. And it's already happening: The Funkwhale app doesn't seem to work (see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1597/funkwhale-a-modern-convivial-and-free-music-server?page=3) and asking for support did not lead to anything (and I don't expect volunteers to react or even monitor such requests, don't get me wrong).
              Just bear in mind, if you need support (e.g. for business critical apps), community packages are not the way to go, I think.

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                I can't wait for community packages ! It will be sooo great, like Unraid ! And Unraid is so populair because of community apps.

                Thx for the work team !

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                  #32

                  @necrevistonnezr right, we will have to see how well it all works 🙂 Specifically for Funkwhale, @vladimir.d has the package cleaned up https://git.cloudron.io/packages/funkwhale-app/ . I will try to get it out.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #33

                    9.1 is in unstable now. I have updated the docs around packaging - https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/ is a good starting point. https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/publishing is the community packages docs.

                    We are working on AI skills around packaging, publishing and CI use:

                    All skills

                    npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git

                    Individual skills

                    npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-packaging
                    npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-publishing
                    npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-server-ops

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                    • girishG girish

                      9.1 is in unstable now. I have updated the docs around packaging - https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/ is a good starting point. https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/publishing is the community packages docs.

                      We are working on AI skills around packaging, publishing and CI use:

                      All skills

                      npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git

                      Individual skills

                      npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-packaging
                      npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-publishing
                      npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-server-ops

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                      wrote last edited by jdaviescoates
                      #34

                      @girish it sounds like these were built to work with https://cursor.com/ (which is new to me - tbh I've barely explore this space at all), but presumably Claude Code, Replit etc etc would benefit from them too?

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @girish it sounds like these were built to work with https://cursor.com/ (which is new to me - tbh I've barely explore this space at all), but presumably Claude Code, Replit etc etc would benefit from them too?

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                        @jdaviescoates can recommend opencode.ai, even includes some good free models to get you started.

                        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                        • girishG girish

                          9.1 is in unstable now. I have updated the docs around packaging - https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/ is a good starting point. https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/publishing is the community packages docs.

                          We are working on AI skills around packaging, publishing and CI use:

                          All skills

                          npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git

                          Individual skills

                          npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-packaging
                          npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-publishing
                          npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-server-ops

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                          @girish said:

                          9.1 is in unstable now

                          Uhh what? One of my production Cloudrons already got updated automatically 3 days ago?!

                          Happy Hosting & Web Development

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