What's coming in 9.1

[ruihildt]

@girish said in What's coming in 9.1:

Custom app build and deploy - You can git-clone any package repository and run cloudron install directly. This builds the app locally on the Cloudron instance and installs it. This simplifies building and maintaining custom packages. The workflow is primarily CLI-driven and targets developers building custom apps as well as users who want to apply patches on top of existing packages

Is there any improvement for integrating this in a CI/CD pipeline? If I understand correctly it would mean we can do without using a container registry by default?

[james]

Hello @ruihildt

Yes. You will be able to simply run cloudron install --location $LOCATION from a CI/CD and the app will be installed on the target Cloudron.

[necrevistonnezr]

@girish said in What's coming in 9.1:

Community packages - can be installed from a URL via the dashboard. Cloudron will track the upstream URL and automatically check for and apply updates. Will allow people to publish outside Cloudron App store and users can easily install these packages and keep them automatically updated. For discovery, we will maintain a list either on the forum or in the documentation (TBD).

Just my 2 cents: It's great that several people, mostly @timconsidine are packaging so many interesting apps. Bear in mind though, maintaining and supporting such apps after the initial packaging is a whole different ballgame.
The Cloudron team currently provides excellent support for their apps, in fact so good, that you see people looking for support in this forum that don't use Cloudron.
If one or two persons, who don't get paid package apps, you can't expect the same kind of support. And it's already happening: The Funkwhale app doesn't seem to work (see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/1597/funkwhale-a-modern-convivial-and-free-music-server?page=3) and asking for support did not lead to anything (and I don't expect volunteers to react or even monitor such requests, don't get me wrong).
Just bear in mind, if you need support (e.g. for business critical apps), community packages are not the way to go, I think.

[Gengar]

I can't wait for community packages ! It will be sooo great, like Unraid ! And Unraid is so populair because of community apps.

Thx for the work team !

[girish]

@necrevistonnezr right, we will have to see how well it all works Specifically for Funkwhale, @vladimir.d has the package cleaned up https://git.cloudron.io/packages/funkwhale-app/ . I will try to get it out.

[girish]

9.1 is in unstable now. I have updated the docs around packaging - https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/ is a good starting point. https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/publishing is the community packages docs.

We are working on AI skills around packaging, publishing and CI use:

All skills

npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git

Individual skills

npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-packaging
npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-app-publishing
npx skills add https://git.cloudron.io/docs/skills.git --skill cloudron-server-ops

[jdaviescoates]

@girish it sounds like these were built to work with https://cursor.com/ (which is new to me - tbh I've barely explore this space at all), but presumably Claude Code, Replit etc etc would benefit from them too?

[marcusquinn]

@jdaviescoates can recommend opencode.ai, even includes some good free models to get you started.

[msbt]

@girish said:

9.1 is in unstable now

Uhh what? One of my production Cloudrons already got updated automatically 3 days ago?!

[james]

Hello @jdaviescoates

@jdaviescoates said:

but presumably Claude Code, Replit etc etc would benefit from them too?

These AI skills can be used with other AIs as well.
They are not exclusive for Cursor.

[girish]

@msbt said:

Uhh what? One of my production Cloudrons already got updated automatically 3 days ago?!

that seems quite unlikely Can you check who was the initiator of the update in the eventlog? The 'source' field will be 'cron' or some real user .

[msbt]

@girish maybe I'm just the lucky one, that happened before on other machines with other versions:

It's a bit tricky, because that specific Cloudron has a bunch of custom apps which are best stopped before updating/rebooting. I remember a thread about release channels or separate app updates from Cloudron updates, is that somewhere on the roadmap?

Edit: it says "unstable": false in the tasks json

[girish]

App updates are already separate from Cloudron updates. But maybe you mean the separation of the automatic update flag , will get to that in the coming releases .

[msbt]

Yes that's what I meant, auto updates for apps but not the platform. Awesome!