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    • girish
      girish Staff @necrevistonnezr last edited by

      @necrevistonnezr Very nice!

      https://github.com/owncloud/ocis is the repo. If anyone gives it a try, would appreciate some screenshots . Is it different from what it looked previously?

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      • fbartels
        fbartels App Dev @girish last edited by

        @girish yes, it has a completely different system design a also a completely redo web client. You can find the architecture at https://owncloud.github.io/ocis/#architecture-overview

        I have not followed this up yet, but there should either shortly be or recently has been an update to the old php owncloud server which brings the new web ui as an easily installable app from their market.

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        • robi
          robi last edited by

          sounds like it should be easier to package this now..

          Life of Gratitude.
          Life of Advanced Technology

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          • atridad
            atridad App Dev last edited by

            Never a bad idea to have alternatives to Nextcloud on here.

            I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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            • JOduMonT
              JOduMonT @robi last edited by

              @robi said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

              S3 stores

              A long time ago I used an S3 as backend storage (the one by Exoscale) with Nextcloud (12, if I remember well) but it didn't work very well.

              Also during the same period, one of my colleague did some performance test and the conclusion was the slowness issues was more due to interaction with MySQL and seams to be less with PostgreSQL

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              • JOduMonT
                JOduMonT @atridad last edited by

                @atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

                alternatives to Nextcloud

                Cloudron have alternative to Nextcloud
                While it depend what you install in your Nextcloud
                for the:

                • file sync you have Syncthing
                • calendar/contact you have: SOGo and Radicale
                  ...
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                • atridad
                  atridad App Dev @JOduMonT last edited by atridad

                  @jodumont syncthing doesnโ€™t quite do what Nextcloud does. It is a decentralized file sync server where Nextcloud is a self hosted file storage cloud. They are not competitors no matter how much I look at it and ownCloud is the alternative I am looking for. I can figure out the other bits (calendar, contacts, etc.)

                  I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                  • JOduMonT
                    JOduMonT @atridad last edited by

                    @atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

                    syncthing doesnโ€™t quite do what Nextcloud does. It is a decentralized file sync server where Nextcloud is a self hosted file storage cloud. They are not competitors no matter how much I look at it

                    not a competitor for sure, but where I find the similarity is in the result: having same files on differents devices

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                    • necrevistonnezr
                      necrevistonnezr @JOduMonT last edited by

                      @jodumont biggest drawback is still the absence of an iOS app

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                      • atridad
                        atridad App Dev @JOduMonT last edited by

                        @jodumont I guess Iโ€™m more concerned with finding something that mimics the experience as well as the result.

                        I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                        • atridad
                          atridad App Dev @necrevistonnezr last edited by

                          @necrevistonnezr yes.

                          I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                          • JOduMonT
                            JOduMonT @necrevistonnezr last edited by

                            @necrevistonnezr said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

                            @jodumont biggest drawback is still the absence of an iOS app

                            thank for pointing it out, while I'm essentially using Android and Linux I prefer choosing solution which support a broader kind of OS (Windows/MacOS/IOS).

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                            • JOduMonT
                              JOduMonT @atridad last edited by

                              @atrilahiji said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

                              @jodumont I guess Iโ€™m more concerned with finding something that mimics the experience as well as the result.

                              I saw you are in Computer Engineer
                              you might want to read about how the CERN use ownCloud
                              they really pushed the limit of ownCloud (before Nextcloud appear)

                              • https://opensource.com/business/16/3/cern-and-owncloud
                              • https://github.com/cernbox
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                              • christiaan
                                christiaan last edited by christiaan

                                One thing Iโ€™m hoping Infinite Scale will do is make it more affordable for us as a small business to run our own cloud server, by way of better efficiency and performance. Sounds like thatโ€™s on the cards.

                                But the competition on this front is peer-to-peer, such as Resilio and Anytype.io

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                                • nebulon
                                  nebulon Staff @christiaan last edited by

                                  @christiaan I am also very much hoping that in comparison to Nextcloud, they stick to the use-case of file syncing and do that well. This I find is still a bit lacking out there.

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                                  • fbartels
                                    fbartels App Dev @nebulon last edited by

                                    @nebulon said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

                                    stick to the use-case of file syncing and do that well

                                    I've been repeatedly told that this is indeed what they want to do

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                                    • christiaan
                                      christiaan last edited by

                                      Is it time?
                                      https://owncloud.com/get-started/

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                                      • nebulon
                                        nebulon Staff @christiaan last edited by

                                        @christiaan this still seems to be the php version in those release tarballs

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                                        • christiaan
                                          christiaan @nebulon last edited by

                                          @nebulon my mistake, I should have posted this link to 1.0.0:
                                          https://owncloud.github.io/ocis/getting-started/

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                                          • fbartels
                                            fbartels App Dev last edited by

                                            The 10.6 version of the php server can also optionally install the new web ui.

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                                            • nebulon
                                              nebulon Staff last edited by

                                              I have locally checked the go version and it appears to work (since it is go it is essentially a single binary, which is very nice) However it looks like to some early version with no settings and very limited features, also I couldn't figure out how to sync from the desktop or so.

                                              I guess we have to give this a bit more time to settle, but looks very promising already.

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                                              • christiaan
                                                christiaan @nebulon last edited by

                                                @nebulon okay, yes, they're calling it a Tech Preview. With any luck they'll have something ready for production this quarter.

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                                                • atridad
                                                  atridad App Dev @nebulon last edited by

                                                  @nebulon Do you have a Repo where you set it up to run on Cloudron? I tried to make a package and encountered this error when starting it:

                                                  Screen Shot 2021-03-03 at 8.39.27 PM.png

                                                  I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                                                  • nebulon
                                                    nebulon Staff @atridad last edited by

                                                    @atrilahiji I don't have a repo or Cloudron package yet, just ran it for testing locally to see roughly in which state it is.

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                                                    • christiaan
                                                      christiaan @nebulon last edited by

                                                      There's a Docker image for their latest 1.5 release, although it's still a tech preview:
                                                      https://hub.docker.com/r/owncloud/ocis

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                                                      • atridad
                                                        atridad App Dev last edited by atridad

                                                        I'm working on this but my biggest frustration thus far has been the way they seem to touch every damn part of the filesystem and there appears to be no easy way to configure everything to work out of /app/data or /app/code.

                                                        Has anyone else taken a crack at this or would like to collab? Repo here: https://git.atrilahiji.dev/atrilahiji/cloudron-ocis-app

                                                        Calling all @appdev

                                                        Made a issue on their git: https://github.com/owncloud/ocis/issues/2021

                                                        I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                                                        • christiaan
                                                          christiaan @atridad last edited by

                                                          @atrilahiji how's it going with that? Any progress?

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                                                          • atridad
                                                            atridad App Dev @christiaan last edited by

                                                            @christiaan nope got frustrated and moved on to other apps. Definitely still want to see it work though.

                                                            I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                                                            • marcusquinn
                                                              marcusquinn last edited by

                                                              ๐Ÿ‘ Curious to test this too.

                                                              We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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                                                              • atridad
                                                                atridad App Dev last edited by atridad

                                                                My repo here. No clue why it wont actually show anything in the browser????? O_O

                                                                https://git.atridad.dev/alt-ron/cloudron-ocis-app

                                                                I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                                                                • christiaan
                                                                  christiaan @atridad last edited by

                                                                  @atridad how come the files refer to Pydio?

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                                                                  • atridad
                                                                    atridad App Dev @christiaan last edited by

                                                                    @christiaan Oh I imported my Pydio repo as a starting point.

                                                                    I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                                                                    • christiaan
                                                                      christiaan last edited by

                                                                      General availability touted for May 2022:
                                                                      https://owncloud.com/news/the-state-of-owncloud-infinite-scale/

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                                                                      • atridad
                                                                        atridad App Dev last edited by

                                                                        This would definitely be nice to have. If anyone wants to give it another shot it seems like an awesome alternative. Owncloud with a more performant backend will always be a good idea.

                                                                        I type things and sometimes those things end up in your browser. ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

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                                                                        • necrevistonnezr
                                                                          necrevistonnezr @christiaan last edited by

                                                                          @christiaan Public Beta is out! https://owncloud.com/infinite-scale-beta/

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                                                                          • canadaduane
                                                                            canadaduane @necrevistonnezr last edited by

                                                                            @necrevistonnezr said in ownCloud Infinite Scale:

                                                                            Public Beta is out! https://owncloud.com/infinite-scale-beta/

                                                                            Exciting! I'd love to see ownCloud hosted on Cloudron. We've been using SyncThing for files and while effective, it has proven difficult to get new members of the team set up with it. Of course, ownCloud has many additional features besides file sync that would be valuable as well.

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                                                                            • marcusquinn
                                                                              marcusquinn last edited by

                                                                              To be fair, Nextcloud 24 is such a leap in speed, and we're easily serving 4Tb to 100 users. I wonder if speed and scaling Nextcloud is a solved thing ๐Ÿคท

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                                                                              • jdaviescoates
                                                                                jdaviescoates last edited by

                                                                                Just spotted this and figured I'd share in case anyone is interested

                                                                                https://owncloud.com/events/tech-talk-how-to-join-the-infinite-scale-beta-program/

                                                                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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