I just tried this out via a German email and cloud service called Mailbox and it's solid.

Address book and calendar configuration + sync are super quick and smooth; none of the address book formatting oddities or calendar glitches I've experienced in Nextcloud. File sync was equally fast and no fuss.

Web GUI has a bit of a corporate feel but it's clean with a good amount of white space.

The Mac and iOS apps work well but there's no Dropbox-like Smartsync "Local vs Online only" feature for the Mac. It has a form of selective sync but it wasn't behaving like I'm used to in Dropbox (turning off a folder still left the folder on my Mac? Maybe a bug).

Couldn't test 2FA without using my own domain.

All and all quite impressed.

@girish okay cool, thanks. Yeah JMAP is much more efficient and makes working with a lot of email on mobile devices significantly quicker. It's also meant to be easier to implement than IMAP/SMTP.

Fastmail wants to build protocols and data models on top of the core of JMAP for handling calendars and contacts sync too, replacing CardDAV, CalDAV and Websocket.

One modern open API for mail, calendars and contacts.

ownCloud Infinite Scale, when it roles out. This sounds like it would solve the file-syncing problems I have with Nextcloud (slow, no delta sync, no selective sync).

https://owncloud.com/owncloud-infinite-scale-owncloud-unveils-new-architecture-for-unlimited-scalability/

https://github.com/owncloud/ocis

@yusf said in Self-hosted alternatives to Nuclino:

This, imo, would serve the same need as a Notion replacement, for which Anytype shows promises to become.

Wow, Anytype looks interesting.

@girish said in Cloudron email 'social' and 'promotion' filters?:

@christiaan Did you have to setup the filters manually for filtering or did they have something pre-setup for this?

All preset. Here's what the anti-spam option looks like in the Dreamhost control panel:

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On my hunting around over the past few weeks trying different hosts, I noticed another host was providing this exact filtering but I forget who it was now.

Here's Dreamhost's technical details on filtering. They use Vade Secure to scan incoming and Procmail as the 'delivery agent for the mailbox which actually places the email into Spam, Social or Promotions folders when it detects the Vade Secure headers'
https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215686647-Technical-details-on-how-Anti-spam-filters-work

@jdaviescoates said in Seafile selfhosted:

https://wikifactory.com

We design buildings rather than products, but that's a very cool website, thanks.

@will said in I want to run a Docker image:

@christiaan For managing docker stuff outside of Cloudron, checkout Portainer and Docker-Compose. Those two things will make life a lot easier. DO would be my recommend, its what I did.
I just did some Cloud training with google, and wow, their GCP stuff is pretty awesome. May be worth a look (probably more expensive than DO)

Good luck!

Okay great, thanks for the recommendations on both counts. Part of the reason I recently discovered the relevance of self-hosted cloud computing was because I was trying to figure out how to avoid using G Suite (mainly because of a reflexive dislike of some of Google's practices) but I really should give their cloud computing platform more consideration because there's no doubt their technology is great.

They also have a $300 free credit offer lasting for 12 months which helps.

Can we use the CRM module in the OnlyOffice available on Cloudron?

Just spotted this post and this docker image.

@will thanks will, I do have it running on a separate instance on DO, with the help of Portainer, but I haven't figured out yet how to get Portainer to use https. Plus I worry about being skilled enough to maintain it in production.

I wonder what the possibilities are of eventually getting it listed on Cloudron? It could potentially bring in some customers for Cloudron I guess.

It's a very lightweight file server developed by my CAD software developer, currently in testing for release later in the year. They've released a Docker image primarily to be used on NAS devices, but they're supportive of the way I'm implementing it too.

@nebulon if I can get this CAD developer to create and maintain a Cloudron-optimised Docker image on docker.io what are the chances of then getting it officially hosted on Cloudron?

@yusf does playSMS support voice?

I just tried this out via a German email and cloud service called Mailbox and it's solid.

Address book and calendar configuration + sync are super quick and smooth; none of the address book formatting oddities or calendar glitches I've experienced in Nextcloud. File sync was equally fast and no fuss.

Web GUI has a bit of a corporate feel but it's clean with a good amount of white space.

The Mac and iOS apps work well but there's no Dropbox-like Smartsync "Local vs Online only" feature for the Mac. It has a form of selective sync but it wasn't behaving like I'm used to in Dropbox (turning off a folder still left the folder on my Mac? Maybe a bug).

Couldn't test 2FA without using my own domain.

All and all quite impressed.

@yusf exactly

@yusf said in Self-hosted alternatives to Nuclino:

This, imo, would serve the same need as a Notion replacement, for which Anytype shows promises to become.

Wow, Anytype looks interesting.

Are there any self-hosted WYSIWYG markdown wikis out there like Nuclino?

All iPhones and Macs at our end.

@mehdi said in Cloudron email 'social' and 'promotion' filters?:

From what I can see, these services use Vade Secure, which is probably the most advanced independent (not Google or Microsoft) email filtering system.

There is basically no way for Cloudron to have filters as good as these, without contracting Vade Secure and paying hundreds / thousands of dollars in licences per instance...

Geez, I see, I thought Dreamhost did a good job of filtering my email!

My problem seems to stem from incorrectly thinking Nextcloud calendars and contacts use Push, but they use Fetch and the default schedule on Macs and iOS devices is 15 minutes.

@murgero said in Nextcloud 2FA and App Passwords:

@christiaan said in Nextcloud 2FA and App Passwords:

I understand you need to generate separate 'app passwords' for all the devices/apps that need access.

This is incorrect (maybe except for the PC version??) all you need is to open the nextcloud app on android or ios (if that's what you are using) then login normally, it will ask for 2FA so switch apps, copy number, switch back and paste it. Then allow the app to use your nextcloud account. Then use the app to sync contacts and such (or use a third party tool)

Okay great, I see, but this is just for mobile app/file sync right? For calendar and contacts sync I will need to generate app passwords if 2FA is on?

Yeah, sorry, sometimes I'm not sure whether to post here or on Nextcloud because I'm not sure if there are some Cloudron-specific implications to think about or not.

I found the comment below on Nextcloud forum. It sounds like you can create just one password for all devices/apps, but it's not intended to work that way. Although it seems to me you don't lose much functionality compared to the convenience? If a password is compromised you replace it and update all your devices/apps. The main password is still safe and protected by 2FA.

https://help.nextcloud.com/t/app-password-not-working-as-expected/28744

The idea behind this is:

• the user creates one app password for each app
• uses a different password for each app
• (optional) uses a different app password for the same app on a different device
• can see in Nextcloud GUI which “app” (or device) logged in last
• • can discover compromised passwords due to unexpected login behavior
• • can revoke the compromised password and set a new one, without the need to change the “normal” password for your account (security gain)