I just tried this out via a German email and cloud service called Mailbox and it's solid.

Address book and calendar configuration + sync are super quick and smooth; none of the address book formatting oddities or calendar glitches I've experienced in Nextcloud. File sync was equally fast and no fuss.

Web GUI has a bit of a corporate feel but it's clean with a good amount of white space.

The Mac and iOS apps work well but there's no Dropbox-like Smartsync "Local vs Online only" feature for the Mac. It has a form of selective sync but it wasn't behaving like I'm used to in Dropbox (turning off a folder still left the folder on my Mac? Maybe a bug).

Couldn't test 2FA without using my own domain.

All and all quite impressed.

@girish okay cool, thanks. Yeah JMAP is much more efficient and makes working with a lot of email on mobile devices significantly quicker. It's also meant to be easier to implement than IMAP/SMTP.

Fastmail wants to build protocols and data models on top of the core of JMAP for handling calendars and contacts sync too, replacing CardDAV, CalDAV and Websocket.

One modern open API for mail, calendars and contacts.

ownCloud Infinite Scale, when it roles out. This sounds like it would solve the file-syncing problems I have with Nextcloud (slow, no delta sync, no selective sync).

https://owncloud.com/owncloud-infinite-scale-owncloud-unveils-new-architecture-for-unlimited-scalability/

https://github.com/owncloud/ocis

@yusf said in Self-hosted alternatives to Nuclino:

This, imo, would serve the same need as a Notion replacement, for which Anytype shows promises to become.

Wow, Anytype looks interesting.

@d19dotca said in Sogo calendar don't send invites:

@necrevistonnezr Semi-related and selfishly promoting my post here calling for a different DAV server app because SOgo isn't too great at that (has many limitations in using CalDAV and CardDAV in my experience) and Radicale while it works has stated it doesn't plan to incorporate the standard too closely, so I'd rather have a dedicated DAV server from one that wants to actually follow the specifications for those standards. Here's the post where I requested Sabre/Dav (but Baikal would be awesome too!): https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2129/sabre-dav-caldav-and-carddav-server-alternative-to-radicale

Agreed. I find Nextcloud to be the best solution at the mo.

What I'm really looking forward to is being able to ditch CalDAV and CardDAV altogether and use JMAP.io instead.

@girish said in Cloudron email 'social' and 'promotion' filters?:

@christiaan Did you have to setup the filters manually for filtering or did they have something pre-setup for this?

All preset. Here's what the anti-spam option looks like in the Dreamhost control panel:

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On my hunting around over the past few weeks trying different hosts, I noticed another host was providing this exact filtering but I forget who it was now.

Here's Dreamhost's technical details on filtering. They use Vade Secure to scan incoming and Procmail as the 'delivery agent for the mailbox which actually places the email into Spam, Social or Promotions folders when it detects the Vade Secure headers'
https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215686647-Technical-details-on-how-Anti-spam-filters-work

@will said in I want to run a Docker image:

@christiaan For managing docker stuff outside of Cloudron, checkout Portainer and Docker-Compose. Those two things will make life a lot easier. DO would be my recommend, its what I did.
I just did some Cloud training with google, and wow, their GCP stuff is pretty awesome. May be worth a look (probably more expensive than DO)

Good luck!

Okay great, thanks for the recommendations on both counts. Part of the reason I recently discovered the relevance of self-hosted cloud computing was because I was trying to figure out how to avoid using G Suite (mainly because of a reflexive dislike of some of Google's practices) but I really should give their cloud computing platform more consideration because there's no doubt their technology is great.

They also have a $300 free credit offer lasting for 12 months which helps.

@jdaviescoates said in Seafile selfhosted:

https://wikifactory.com

We design buildings rather than products, but that's a very cool website, thanks.

On my little journey of discovery finding alternatives to Dropbox/Google/Microsoft I tried Syncthing for Mac. I didn't like it because I found the user interface too esoteric for my team.

I'm still considering it as an option but I'm wondering what the point of a remote server is given that it's using peer-to-peer syncing and you could therefore just run it on the user's devices that need access to the files?

Edit: actually it doesn't have an iOS client so that rules it out for us

@will thanks will, I do have it running on a separate instance on DO, with the help of Portainer, but I haven't figured out yet how to get Portainer to use https. Plus I worry about being skilled enough to maintain it in production.

I wonder what the possibilities are of eventually getting it listed on Cloudron? It could potentially bring in some customers for Cloudron I guess.

It's a very lightweight file server developed by my CAD software developer, currently in testing for release later in the year. They've released a Docker image primarily to be used on NAS devices, but they're supportive of the way I'm implementing it too.

@nebulon if I can get this CAD developer to create and maintain a Cloudron-optimised Docker image on docker.io what are the chances of then getting it officially hosted on Cloudron?

Is Sabre/Baikal the same thing??

@d19dotca said in Sogo calendar don't send invites:

@necrevistonnezr Semi-related and selfishly promoting my post here calling for a different DAV server app because SOgo isn't too great at that (has many limitations in using CalDAV and CardDAV in my experience) and Radicale while it works has stated it doesn't plan to incorporate the standard too closely, so I'd rather have a dedicated DAV server from one that wants to actually follow the specifications for those standards. Here's the post where I requested Sabre/Dav (but Baikal would be awesome too!): https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2129/sabre-dav-caldav-and-carddav-server-alternative-to-radicale

Agreed. I find Nextcloud to be the best solution at the mo.

What I'm really looking forward to is being able to ditch CalDAV and CardDAV altogether and use JMAP.io instead.

@yusf does playSMS support voice?

I just tried this out via a German email and cloud service called Mailbox and it's solid.

Address book and calendar configuration + sync are super quick and smooth; none of the address book formatting oddities or calendar glitches I've experienced in Nextcloud. File sync was equally fast and no fuss.

Web GUI has a bit of a corporate feel but it's clean with a good amount of white space.

The Mac and iOS apps work well but there's no Dropbox-like Smartsync "Local vs Online only" feature for the Mac. It has a form of selective sync but it wasn't behaving like I'm used to in Dropbox (turning off a folder still left the folder on my Mac? Maybe a bug).

Couldn't test 2FA without using my own domain.

All and all quite impressed.

@yusf exactly

@yusf said in Self-hosted alternatives to Nuclino:

This, imo, would serve the same need as a Notion replacement, for which Anytype shows promises to become.

Wow, Anytype looks interesting.

Are there any self-hosted WYSIWYG markdown wikis out there like Nuclino?

All iPhones and Macs at our end.

@mehdi said in Cloudron email 'social' and 'promotion' filters?:

From what I can see, these services use Vade Secure, which is probably the most advanced independent (not Google or Microsoft) email filtering system.

There is basically no way for Cloudron to have filters as good as these, without contracting Vade Secure and paying hundreds / thousands of dollars in licences per instance...

Geez, I see, I thought Dreamhost did a good job of filtering my email!

My problem seems to stem from incorrectly thinking Nextcloud calendars and contacts use Push, but they use Fetch and the default schedule on Macs and iOS devices is 15 minutes.