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Why does Kutt use so many google services?

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    • robiR Offline
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      robi
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      #21

      I've generally solved that problem by using the LocalCDN browser extension which blocks such requests from any sites.

      Conscious tech

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      • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

        @girish Understandable. Unfortunately it looks like the maintainers don't seem to be very interested in removing GA seeing these issues being open for a while now. Maybe I have to go back to yourls

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        @andreasdueren said in Why does Kutt use so many google services?:

        yourls

        I prefer that anyway because you can customise the homepage of the domain 🙂

        Kutt has a nicer UI, but I don't see the need for a nice UI for such a simple tool. I just need to be able to create shortlink and track how many clicks they get and YOURLS does that perfectly fine imho.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • timconsidineT timconsidine

          @andreasdueren I missed the original post, but shall now look to move away from Kutt. Shame because it looks nice and works well, but I can't tolerate anything built around Google services.

          Yourls works but is just ugly and dated (IMHO).

          Looking at alternatives :

          • https://github.com/shlinkio/shlink (Dockerfile √)
            (wishlist https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2325/shlink-modern-url-shortener?lang=en-GB)
          • https://github.com/muety/anchr (Dockerfile √)
          • https://github.com/ldidry/lstu (Dockerfile √)
          • https://github.com/urlhum/urlhum (Dockerfile √)
          • https://github.com/steven-tey/dub (no Dockerfile)
            (wishlist https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7719/dub-an-open-source-bit-ly-alternative-for-url-redirection?lang=en-GB)
          • https://github.com/cmpct-io (no Dockerfile )
          • https://github.com/origranot/reduced.to (no Dockerfile)
          • https://github.com/webfuelcode/link2u (script)
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          wrote on last edited by andreasdueren
          #23

          @timconsidine I'm currently looking more into shlink which ticks a lot of boxes. It looks like this could potentially run in a lamp stack if no one ports it for cloudron it seems


          Edit: Seems to run well in a lamp stack. Now my only Problem is that there is no public facing UI and user accounts 😕

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          • robiR robi

            @JOduMonT Define home for a self-hosted system serving up the JS. Also, which API, self-hosted or otherwise?

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            @robi said in Why does Kutt use so many google services?:

            @JOduMonT Define home for a self-hosted system serving up the JS. Also, which API, self-hosted or otherwise?

            we might be lost in the translation/transmission
            when I said ping home; I meant phone home to make a connection so if you don't localize your JS, the provider notice you (ping)

            otherwise it was just to raise awareness on JS such as Stallman did years ago and now https://openjsf.org do.

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              #25

              Hello everyone,
              I'm the creator of Kutt and I just somehow stumbled across this forum post.
              I wanted to let you know that everything related to Google was removed in the version 3 of the app, which was released a few days ago.
              I also wanted to say that I'm happy to see you took interest in Kutt. I hope you like the new version too.

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              • P poeti8

                Hello everyone,
                I'm the creator of Kutt and I just somehow stumbled across this forum post.
                I wanted to let you know that everything related to Google was removed in the version 3 of the app, which was released a few days ago.
                I also wanted to say that I'm happy to see you took interest in Kutt. I hope you like the new version too.

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                #26

                @poeti8 I switched to Yourls because of the Google references and the higher resource requirement to run Kutt. I know the idle usage is probably the same, but any reason why the recommended RAM is 1GB vs 256 MB for Yourls?

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                • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                  @poeti8 I switched to Yourls because of the Google references and the higher resource requirement to run Kutt. I know the idle usage is probably the same, but any reason why the recommended RAM is 1GB vs 256 MB for Yourls?

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                  #27

                  @humptydumpty @poeti8 Same here. Another big reason was the customizability. I need to be able to choose a favicon and control the design and content of the landing page.

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                    #28

                    Just in contact with @poeti8 because of customization. He released a developer built on GitHub and aksed me to test. As I am a total noob (that's why I am on cloudron 😉 maybe anyone of you can test. Here is the link https://github.com/thedevs-network/kutt/tree/develop?tab=readme-ov-file#themes-and-customizations

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                      #29

                      Thanks @sponch, I added development build on Docker in case anyone wants to test. I'll publish this change soon, if you have any opinions let me know.

                      https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/kutt/kutt

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                        #30

                        Sounds great @poeti8 Thanks for your fast action 🙂 While we have you here: are there any other trackers or measurement tools (Google was removed, after all) that we should point out in the privacy policy?

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                        • sponchS sponch

                          Sounds great @poeti8 Thanks for your fast action 🙂 While we have you here: are there any other trackers or measurement tools (Google was removed, after all) that we should point out in the privacy policy?

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                          @sponch Nope

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                            https://github.com/thedevs-network/kutt Kutt 3.1 available. @girish @nebulon

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                              @sponch Nope

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                              @poeti8 Shipping fast, I'm digging the customizability!

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                              • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                @poeti8 Shipping fast, I'm digging the customizability!

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                                @andreasdueren any hint how to do it? just updated ..

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                                • sponchS sponch

                                  @andreasdueren any hint how to do it? just updated ..

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                                  @sponch Updating didn't work, even if I manually created the custom folder. I had to reinstall unfortunately.

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                                    #36

                                    I had to manually add the custom files and it worked.

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                                    • sponchS sponch

                                      I had to manually add the custom files and it worked.

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                                      andreasdueren
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                                      @sponch Strange. But since it was a new install anyways this wasn't an issue for me.

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                                      • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                        @sponch Strange. But since it was a new install anyways this wasn't an issue for me.

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                                        #38

                                        @andreasdueren Hope the custom folder is not being overwritten during the next update ...

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                                          I think it would be easier if the custom folder would already contain example files. I had to get them from GitHub.

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                                          • sponchS sponch

                                            I think it would be easier if the custom folder would already contain example files. I had to get them from GitHub.

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                                            andreasdueren
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                                            @sponch the problem with that is though that those are automatically applied. I think the documentation is clear and easy enough to understand

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