How do you take and manage notes?
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When you read physical books, how do you take notes? Where you store that?
About digital notes: how do you manage? Eg. websites? Where do you store?
Do you use any Cloudron app to achieve this?
I'm curious because I cannot find a good solution that covers all cases eg. online, offline, kindle, paper, and so on.
Thank's a lot!
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When you read physical books, how do you take notes? Where you store that?
About digital notes: how do you manage? Eg. websites? Where do you store?
Do you use any Cloudron app to achieve this?
I'm curious because I cannot find a good solution that covers all cases eg. online, offline, kindle, paper, and so on.
Thank's a lot!
@p44 +1
no clue how to handle my data silos
my setup is a mix between:- getpocket.com
- wallabag
- browser favs
- in my days using a macOS "drag & drop" bookmarks into folders
- (and brain)
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Don't laugh at me but I use Notepad++ for quick notes but I retired one of the laptops I had been using at work and installed pop!_os on it. I was going through the app store and found Joplin. It's open source, has apps for linux, mac, windows, android, and ios. The notes can be synced to your nextcloud or you can just use it locally on your device. Oh, and it has markdown support!
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Don't laugh at me but I use Notepad++ for quick notes but I retired one of the laptops I had been using at work and installed pop!_os on it. I was going through the app store and found Joplin. It's open source, has apps for linux, mac, windows, android, and ios. The notes can be synced to your nextcloud or you can just use it locally on your device. Oh, and it has markdown support!
@humptydumpty Joplin I like, except that the .md filenames are meaningless.
Frankly, I love https://ulysses.app for all notes, Markdown is decent, export options are quality, tweakable, instant sync via iCloud. Not FOSS but for notes on everything from Tweet ideas to letters, books, creative, whatever I write goes into that.
Just one of those things that I must have tried every alternative out there but the attention to detail and pure writing tools in Ulysses was the end of my search.
More on the subject and other apps here for fellow Markdown fans: https://www.marcusquinn.com/plain-text-markdown/
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I use Roam Research and it's nice for notes, but it's expensive, not self-hosted, and not foss.
There is also Logseq, which is foss roam research alternative that syncs to github that I've tried and like. It's not quite as polished, but it's very new, and imo would be worth it to gain self-hosting. One of the things I was hoping to do when I decided to try cloudron was wrap up logseq into a cloudron app and publish it. But to fully connect the dots here, I'd prefer if it synced to gitea on my cloudron instead which I don't think it currently supports.
If we ever get the code-server app rolling, maybe a combo code-server + foam vscode extension could be interesting here.
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@p44 +1
no clue how to handle my data silos
my setup is a mix between:- getpocket.com
- wallabag
- browser favs
- in my days using a macOS "drag & drop" bookmarks into folders
- (and brain)
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@jeau nvALT seems to be similar to "Note", right? Zotero similar to Scrivener, right? Zotero seems to be only for Desktop/Mac, right?
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Don't laugh at me but I use Notepad++ for quick notes but I retired one of the laptops I had been using at work and installed pop!_os on it. I was going through the app store and found Joplin. It's open source, has apps for linux, mac, windows, android, and ios. The notes can be synced to your nextcloud or you can just use it locally on your device. Oh, and it has markdown support!
@humptydumpty said in How do you take and manage notes?:
pop!_os
Seems to be interesting... I'll take a look!
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@humptydumpty Joplin I like, except that the .md filenames are meaningless.
Frankly, I love https://ulysses.app for all notes, Markdown is decent, export options are quality, tweakable, instant sync via iCloud. Not FOSS but for notes on everything from Tweet ideas to letters, books, creative, whatever I write goes into that.
Just one of those things that I must have tried every alternative out there but the attention to detail and pure writing tools in Ulysses was the end of my search.
More on the subject and other apps here for fellow Markdown fans: https://www.marcusquinn.com/plain-text-markdown/
@marcusquinn said in How do you take and manage notes?:
I'll check this page.
About Ulysses, me too I use Ulysses but problem is missing table management. For this, I purchased iaWriter, but of course Ulysses is more usable, specially arrange content on right bars.
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I use Roam Research and it's nice for notes, but it's expensive, not self-hosted, and not foss.
There is also Logseq, which is foss roam research alternative that syncs to github that I've tried and like. It's not quite as polished, but it's very new, and imo would be worth it to gain self-hosting. One of the things I was hoping to do when I decided to try cloudron was wrap up logseq into a cloudron app and publish it. But to fully connect the dots here, I'd prefer if it synced to gitea on my cloudron instead which I don't think it currently supports.
If we ever get the code-server app rolling, maybe a combo code-server + foam vscode extension could be interesting here.
@infogulch Logseq seems to be minimal and with a polish UX.
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@jeau nvALT seems to be similar to "Note", right? Zotero similar to Scrivener, right? Zotero seems to be only for Desktop/Mac, right?
nvALT is very basic relative to Notes. It is a clone of Notational Velocity witch the killer feature is an original interface focused on incremental search. The same area is used both for creating notes and searching. I.e., in the process of entering the title for a new note, related notes appear below, letting user file information there if they choose. Likewise, if a search reveals nothing, one need simply press return to create a note with the appropriate title.
Zotero is not dedicated to note-taking but to collecting and sharing references. It is however possible to associate notes to them. Zotero is available for Mac, Windows, and Linux.
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I used obsidian, there is a lot of discussion on their forum and discord about bite taking etc
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@jeau nvALT seems to be similar to "Note", right? Zotero similar to Scrivener, right? Zotero seems to be only for Desktop/Mac, right?
@p44 said in How do you take and manage notes?:
Zotero seems to be only for Desktop/Mac
mickstar/Zoo-For-Zotero: This is an Android app for viewing Zotero libraries.
https://github.com/mickstar/Zoo-For-Zotero -
When you read physical books, how do you take notes? Where you store that?
About digital notes: how do you manage? Eg. websites? Where do you store?
Do you use any Cloudron app to achieve this?
I'm curious because I cannot find a good solution that covers all cases eg. online, offline, kindle, paper, and so on.
Thank's a lot!
@p44 I used to use Joplin but changed to Standard Notes https://standardnotes.org/
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@p44 said in How do you take and manage notes?:
Zotero seems to be only for Desktop/Mac
mickstar/Zoo-For-Zotero: This is an Android app for viewing Zotero libraries.
https://github.com/mickstar/Zoo-For-Zotero@hillside502 said in How do you take and manage notes?:
@p44 said in How do you take and manage notes?:
Zotero seems to be only for Desktop/Mac
mickstar/Zoo-For-Zotero: This is an Android app for viewing Zotero libraries.
https://github.com/mickstar/Zoo-For-ZoteroReally interesting, seems to manage different data type.
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@p44 I used to use Joplin but changed to Standard Notes https://standardnotes.org/
@timconsidine said in How do you take and manage notes?:
@p44 I used to use Joplin but changed to Standard Notes https://standardnotes.org/
I toke a quickly look to website it seems to be very clean and minimal. I'll go to download and try. Thank's a lot!
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@p44 I used to use Joplin but changed to Standard Notes https://standardnotes.org/
@timconsidine Nice, Standard Notes looks good but I have little patience for having to work to see or get functionality. I couldn't work out how to just see and try all the so-called extensions.
Why they can't just include everything, give like a 7-day trial, and make it possible to try all those things without jumping through hoops.
So I registered an account, then click to an extension, which takes me to a demo site where I seem to have to enter those registration credentials, which it then says don't work, so I'm thinking that I just put credentials supposed to be for protecting data into a website that I shouldn't have entered them into.
The idea and look of the product looks good - the onboarding process to get anyone trying all that and confident that a significant investment in them is worth the risk, that I don't think I could confidently recommend to friends if the first thing it did was confuse and annoy me. Maybe I'm missing something that others's didn't, but the so-called free version feels like it costs me more time and effort for something that doesn't support markdown, so I don't know what they expect people to do with that.
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@timconsidine Nice, Standard Notes looks good but I have little patience for having to work to see or get functionality. I couldn't work out how to just see and try all the so-called extensions.
Why they can't just include everything, give like a 7-day trial, and make it possible to try all those things without jumping through hoops.
So I registered an account, then click to an extension, which takes me to a demo site where I seem to have to enter those registration credentials, which it then says don't work, so I'm thinking that I just put credentials supposed to be for protecting data into a website that I shouldn't have entered them into.
The idea and look of the product looks good - the onboarding process to get anyone trying all that and confident that a significant investment in them is worth the risk, that I don't think I could confidently recommend to friends if the first thing it did was confuse and annoy me. Maybe I'm missing something that others's didn't, but the so-called free version feels like it costs me more time and effort for something that doesn't support markdown, so I don't know what they expect people to do with that.
@marcusquinn I have been using it for what seems like a couple of years, so I have forgotten all that pain.
Things that make it valuable for me :
- markdown
- multiple editors
- including tasks list, don't use it much but handy for TODAY type notes
- mini spreadsheet (without having to load a full Numbers or OfficeSheet app)
- multiple note tags
- publishing articles to listed.io, e.g. drafts for colleagues to review without sharing a file
- easy cross-device syncing
- security
But sorry for leading you down wasted time route !
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@marcusquinn I have been using it for what seems like a couple of years, so I have forgotten all that pain.
Things that make it valuable for me :
- markdown
- multiple editors
- including tasks list, don't use it much but handy for TODAY type notes
- mini spreadsheet (without having to load a full Numbers or OfficeSheet app)
- multiple note tags
- publishing articles to listed.io, e.g. drafts for colleagues to review without sharing a file
- easy cross-device syncing
- security
But sorry for leading you down wasted time route !
@timconsidine Thanks, it's all good. I sent them an email as feedback, so not wasted time at all, I can see their ambition, I just like to try before I buy and they seem to be missing a few expectations there. I might give it another try when more time as the UI looks well considered.
