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Cal.com (was Calendso) - Calendly Alternative

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  • nebulonN Offline
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    nebulon
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    wrote on last edited by
    #96

    thanks for everyone chiming in here and @alishahbaz for the clarification. Generally we don't mind if open source or not, as long as we can build an app package. Seems like I got confused about the subrepo style there and somehow thought only pre-built docker images for the backend parts are delivered.

    Anyways we will start looking into getting the app into the library soon.

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    • nebulonN nebulon

      thanks for everyone chiming in here and @alishahbaz for the clarification. Generally we don't mind if open source or not, as long as we can build an app package. Seems like I got confused about the subrepo style there and somehow thought only pre-built docker images for the backend parts are delivered.

      Anyways we will start looking into getting the app into the library soon.

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      jdaviescoates
      wrote on last edited by
      #97

      @nebulon said in Cal.com (was Calendso) - Calendly Alternative:

      Anyways we will start looking into getting the app into the library soon.

      πŸ‘ πŸ™

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @nebulon I don't think that can be right. They certainly claim that it is fully self-hostable, it's deployable on Heroku, Railway, Vercel and Render, and I'm pretty sure I've seen people on Twitter saying they are self-hosting it.

        In this Tweet by Cal.com back in July 2022 they claim over 10,000 people were already self-hosting:

        https://twitter.com/calcom/status/1559246473853812736

        And here is one of the founders and Co-CEOs saying people are self-hosting it:

        https://twitter.com/peer_rich/status/1553123068289187840

        And this one from 11 days ago saying they are putting in a lot of work to make self-hosting easier

        https://twitter.com/peer_rich/status/1610967646652059650

        Presumably you have already looked at that docker link?

        https://github.com/calcom/docker

        Perhaps ask for help/ clarification in their Slack? https://cal.com/slack

        I've also just directly asked them on Twitter here and invited them to chime into this thread:

        https://twitter.com/jdaviescoates/status/1615088837520228370

        Edit:

        Seems there are some issues with slowness when selfhosting though:

        https://twitter.com/peer_rich/status/1610726994525945857

        Also, I've now asked about this in their Slack too:

        https://calendso.slack.com/archives/C01NXDSRY9W/p1673902893871239

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        jdaviescoates
        wrote on last edited by
        #98

        @jdaviescoates said in Cal.com (was Calendso) - Calendly Alternative:

        I've also just directly asked them on Twitter here and invited them to chime into this thread:
        https://twitter.com/jdaviescoates/status/1615088837520228370

        Just for completeness, here is the response I received:

        330149c5-2b5f-4c62-aa46-c2eb6f69548c-image.png

        https://twitter.com/peer_rich/status/1615298951510429696

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • nebulonN nebulon

          thanks for everyone chiming in here and @alishahbaz for the clarification. Generally we don't mind if open source or not, as long as we can build an app package. Seems like I got confused about the subrepo style there and somehow thought only pre-built docker images for the backend parts are delivered.

          Anyways we will start looking into getting the app into the library soon.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #99

          @nebulon Amazing! Thank you!!

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          • marcusquinnM Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #100

            Not as easy as first hoped for packaging. In the meantime, here's a reasonable and free Wordpress plugin that offers a subset of this kind of feature:

            • https://wpcal.io/

            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
            Development https://brandlight.org
            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              Not as easy as first hoped for packaging. In the meantime, here's a reasonable and free Wordpress plugin that offers a subset of this kind of feature:

              • https://wpcal.io/
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              jdaviescoates
              wrote on last edited by
              #101

              @marcusquinn I'm happily using the hosted cal.com service myself.

              It's pretty much the only service like this that integrates with self-hosted caldav calendars.

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #102

                2.8 is out:

                https://cal.com/blog/v-2-8

                Not only that, but there is now also a $100 bounty on packaging it for Cloudron!

                https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/issues/3026#issuecomment-1509352147

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                  2.8 is out:

                  https://cal.com/blog/v-2-8

                  Not only that, but there is now also a $100 bounty on packaging it for Cloudron!

                  https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/issues/3026#issuecomment-1509352147

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #103

                  @jdaviescoates
                  get that bounty up to 1000 and I will spend another week on it and it will be done. -- Already half way there.

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                  • R roofboard

                    @jdaviescoates
                    get that bounty up to 1000 and I will spend another week on it and it will be done. -- Already half way there.

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                    jdaviescoates
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #104

                    @roofboard it's nothing to do with me

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • marcusquinnM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #105

                      Looks like there's a Pull Request related to the bounty on this:

                      • https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/issues/3026
                      • https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/pull/8561

                      Give it your emoji support πŸ‘

                      Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                      Development https://brandlight.org
                      Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                      • dev-cbD Offline
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                        #106

                        What can we do to get this rolling? Since cal.com is now also working with SOGo quite well (it wasn’t at all for quite a while) I hope that there is some movement in the package development 😏

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                        • girishG Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #107

                          @dev-cb The last we checked this was not so easy to selfhost. But now, it seems, they moved to a monorepo and atleast the instructions seem quite simple. Time to give this another try...

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                            marcusquinn
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #108

                            Seems they are generally supportive of it being on Cloudron, in at least making it compatible, I think the rest is our side of the packaging job.

                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                            • girishG girish

                              @dev-cb The last we checked this was not so easy to selfhost. But now, it seems, they moved to a monorepo and atleast the instructions seem quite simple. Time to give this another try...

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                              dev-cb
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #109

                              @girish said in Cal.com (was Calendso) - Calendly Alternative:

                              Time to give this another try...

                              Thanks for the response and your will to give it fresh start! πŸ›«

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                                sparkwise
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #110

                                While these two relevant issues (https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/issues/3026 and https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/issues/6780) remain open, it looks like a PR was merged and released in 2.9.5 a few weeks ago that addressed both of these: "feat: Make database optional when building" (https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/pull/8561)

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #111

                                  Honestly, not having this and the lack of new apps for businesses was the reason I didn't renew my subscription. Cloudron is definitely the easiest solution to work with, but for $150 a year I anticipated more apps being released over the past year.

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                                  • ajtatumA ajtatum

                                    Honestly, not having this and the lack of new apps for businesses was the reason I didn't renew my subscription. Cloudron is definitely the easiest solution to work with, but for $150 a year I anticipated more apps being released over the past year.

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                                    wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                                    #112

                                    @ajtatum There's no lack of willing to package apps, the issues more come from the apps themselves having difficulties in working with a locked-down Docker setup, and the author's don't have to make their apps compatible if they prefer to use unusual stack setups.

                                    Sure you can package them in vanilla Docker, but then you have all the maintenance and debugging that app store managed apps have done for you.

                                    FWIW, if you didn't already look, Easy Appointments is already available:

                                    • https://easyappointments.org/

                                    And these are free Wordpress plugins options:

                                    • wordpress.org/plugins/wpcal/
                                    • wordpress.org/plugins/vikappointments/

                                    Cal.com does look great, and I've seen the 95% of work done on it to attempt to make is Cloudron-easy as an app store app, but sometimes that last 5% is many times more work, and then author negotiation, than the 95% part.

                                    I guess that's the thing about open-source, no-one is entitled to anything, it's always going to be a best effort at the time offering.

                                    If you want guarantees, then you can always subscribe to cal.com directly, and influence their development directly.

                                    I think the expectation that Cloudron fixes every apps inadequacies to package and maintain and make easy for all, is always going to need some pragmatism.

                                    As they say, you can pay with your money, or with your time, at least you have that freedom of choice and voice here.

                                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                    Development https://brandlight.org
                                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                    • ajtatumA ajtatum

                                      Honestly, not having this and the lack of new apps for businesses was the reason I didn't renew my subscription. Cloudron is definitely the easiest solution to work with, but for $150 a year I anticipated more apps being released over the past year.

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                                      potemkin_ai
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #113

                                      @ajtatum if you don’t mind me asking - what is an alternative for ~11$/month?

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                                      • S sparkwise

                                        While these two relevant issues (https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/issues/3026 and https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/issues/6780) remain open, it looks like a PR was merged and released in 2.9.5 a few weeks ago that addressed both of these: "feat: Make database optional when building" (https://github.com/calcom/cal.com/pull/8561)

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                                        3699n
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #114

                                        @sparkwise Doesn't the PR you linked resolve the issues that have previously been blocking the packaging as a Cloudron app? Would it be possible for you to take another look @girish ? Cal.com would still be a killer app to have on the platform.

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                                        • 3699n3 3699n

                                          @sparkwise Doesn't the PR you linked resolve the issues that have previously been blocking the packaging as a Cloudron app? Would it be possible for you to take another look @girish ? Cal.com would still be a killer app to have on the platform.

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                                          girish
                                          Staff
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #115

                                          @3699n yes, I think it's worthwhile re-investigating the current situation with selfhosting cal.com . Added to our internal list.

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