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Use Cloudrons ldap in Authelia

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  • Jan MacenkaJ Jan Macenka

    @DanTheMan did you have success? Trying to do the same thing now. My approach will be:

    1. Set up a Container with Authelia (cloud also be a VM) in my private network alongside the Cloudron VM as in the same sub-net or vLAN
    2. Adapt Authelias Config accordingly, I want it to utilize a LDAP Backend and for starters integrating the one that Cloudron offers.
    3. Let Cloudron do the Cert-handling and expose Authelia via Cloudron-App-Proxy
    4. Adapt the Nginx-Config for the Cloudron Apps, I want to protect to require the SSO flow Authelia offers.

    How did you approach the issue? Did you do things differently?

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    wrote on last edited by DanTheMan
    #5

    @Jan-Macenka
    So great to hear that someone wants to do the same thing as i had in mind 👍

    This is how I have set it up at the moment...
    Screenshot_20220820-202949_YouTube.png

    I am on holiday this week and coming home this weekend, so I will be here around that time to pick this up.

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    • Jan MacenkaJ Jan Macenka

      @DanTheMan did you have success? Trying to do the same thing now. My approach will be:

      1. Set up a Container with Authelia (cloud also be a VM) in my private network alongside the Cloudron VM as in the same sub-net or vLAN
      2. Adapt Authelias Config accordingly, I want it to utilize a LDAP Backend and for starters integrating the one that Cloudron offers.
      3. Let Cloudron do the Cert-handling and expose Authelia via Cloudron-App-Proxy
      4. Adapt the Nginx-Config for the Cloudron Apps, I want to protect to require the SSO flow Authelia offers.

      How did you approach the issue? Did you do things differently?

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      DanTheMan
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      @Jan-Macenka

      So this is the update so far from my side;

      1. Set up a Container with Authelia (cloud also be a VM) in my private network alongside the Cloudron VM as in the same sub-net or vLAN
        Authelia is running in the same subnet as Cloudron now. 👌

      2. Let Cloudron do the Cert-handling and expose Authelia via Cloudron-App-Proxy
        Authelia is running through the Cloudron-App-Proxy and handling certs for Authelia. 👌

      These are the one's that i'm struggling with at the moment;

      1. Adapt Authelias Config accordingly, utilize LDAP Backend and integrating the one that Cloudron offers. 👈

      2. Adapt the Nginx-Config for the Cloudron Apps, protect to require the SSO flow Authelia offers. 👈

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        DanTheMan
        wrote on last edited by DanTheMan
        #7

        Ok, so i found the following almost working, but i can't login Authelia with Cloudron's credentials (ldap)

        This is the error i got from Authelia in the logs:
        Schermafbeelding 2023-02-19 172403.jpg

        This is the config i have in Authelia,

        authentication_backend:
        password_reset:
        disable: true
        ldap:
        implementation: custom
        url: ldaps://cloudrons_ip:636
        start_tls: false
        tls:
        server_name: my.cloudrons_domain
        skip_verify: true
        minimum_version: TLS1.2
        base_dn: ou=users,dc=cloudron
        username_attribute: uid
        additional_users_dn: ou=users,dc=cloudron
        users_filter: (&({username_attribute}={input})(objectClass=person))
        additional_groups_dn: ou=groups,dc=cloudron
        groups_filter: (&(member=uid={input},cn=users,cn=accounts,dc=cloudron)(objectclass=groupofnames))
        group_name_attribute: cn
        mail_attribute: mail
        display_name_attribute: givenName
        user: cn=admin,ou=system,dc=cloudron
        password: "password for ldap in cloudron"

        Am i missing a step somewhere or maybe i have the "users_filter" or "groups_filter" setup in the wrong way?
        Maybe someone can give me a pointer into the right direction.......
        .

        I feel i'm so close to an almost working situation here.....😵

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          nebulon
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          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          I think what you really want here is a custom Cloudron app package, running authelia and have the ldap addon enabled.

          If you connect to the internal ldap server, then it will auth only against per-app generated credentials (the app gets those via env variables) for the initial admin bind to allow searching.

          Alternately you can enable exposed ldap and connect via the external route to then.

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          • nebulonN nebulon

            I think what you really want here is a custom Cloudron app package, running authelia and have the ldap addon enabled.

            If you connect to the internal ldap server, then it will auth only against per-app generated credentials (the app gets those via env variables) for the initial admin bind to allow searching.

            Alternately you can enable exposed ldap and connect via the external route to then.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            @nebulon
            Thanks for the quick response.
            I do have the alternately way exposed in this setup for now, but it's still the local way i want to connect...
            do i have to connect it through domain? or is it still possible to do this via it's ip? locally?

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              • DanTheManD DanTheMan

                @nebulon
                Thanks for the quick response.
                I do have the alternately way exposed in this setup for now, but it's still the local way i want to connect...
                do i have to connect it through domain? or is it still possible to do this via it's ip? locally?

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                nebulon
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                #11

                @DanTheMan you have to use the external ldap domain, as the server will check the source IP.

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                • nebulonN nebulon

                  @DanTheMan you have to use the external ldap domain, as the server will check the source IP.

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                  wrote on last edited by DanTheMan
                  #12

                  @nebulon
                  If i try to connect through it's Cloudrons external ldap domain, Authelia is not starting anymore, but if i reverse the action and connect through Cloudrons internal ip, Authelia is starting up and working again.

                  Now for the test, if i remove Authelia's ip from the Restrict Access list in Cloudron, as suggested Authelia fails to start and Cloudron is doing it's job by refusing the not listed ip from Authelia. if i add Authelia's ip in the Restrict Access list in Cloudron again, Authelia starts up.
                  So i think it's possible to connect internally...... i guess

                  A second question would be, if i have the Ldap part working, how could i Adapt the Nginx-Config for the Cloudron Apps, to protect the required SSO flow Authelia offers?

                  I think and feel that's going to be a lot harder to accomplish....

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                    #13

                    I don't quite know Authelia, so hard to say why it wouldn't startup in such a case. Just to be sure, have you enable the directory server in your Cloudron? This can be found at the bottom of the users view in your Cloudron dashboard.

                    But also as you correctly mention the required nginx changes to be persistent across Cloudron updates, it really makes so much more sense to bundle it as a Cloudron app.

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      I don't quite know Authelia, so hard to say why it wouldn't startup in such a case. Just to be sure, have you enable the directory server in your Cloudron? This can be found at the bottom of the users view in your Cloudron dashboard.

                      But also as you correctly mention the required nginx changes to be persistent across Cloudron updates, it really makes so much more sense to bundle it as a Cloudron app.

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                      wrote on last edited by DanTheMan
                      #14

                      @nebulon
                      I'm totally sure that I have enabled the directory server in Cloudron, not sure where it's stuck...

                      Maybe I will try and give it a go to package Authelia as an app in Cloudron. Only thing is i have zero experience with that, so it's going to be a learning curve....

                      Maybe @Jan-Macenka can help/assist me with that?

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