Cloudron vs Heimdall

[LoudLemur]

These two look quite similar. What are the main differences between the two?

https://cloudron.io
https://heimdall.site/

[fbartels]

@LoudLemur heimdall is only a dashboard and does not install and manage apps for you.

[LoudLemur]

@fbartels said in Cloudron vs Heimdall:

@LoudLemur heimdall is only a dashboard and does not install and manage apps for you.

Thanks. So conceivably, Heimdall could be used as a dashboard for applications installed by Cloudron. Might Cloudron include support for Heimdall to help people see what is happening?

[fbartels]

@LoudLemur as heimdall is written in PHP it's likely that it will already run in the lamp app.

[timconsidine]

@LoudLemur said in Cloudron vs Heimdall:

Heimdall could be used as a dashboard for applications installed by Cloudron

That's what I'm doing. My Heimdall is actually running in docke on another VPS, but I keep meaning to try it on Cloudron.

Just remember to use a password on your heimdall dashboard - some post on reddit some time ago reported an astonishing number of Heimdal dashboards available w/o login

[LoudLemur]

@fbartels said in Cloudron vs Heimdall:

@LoudLemur as heimdall is written in PHP it's likely that it will already run in the lamp app.

Thanks. Is there a good "How to" explaining how to run PHP applications (or similar) on the LAMP application?

[fbartels]

@LoudLemur the documentation is located at https://docs.cloudron.io/apps/lamp/

[timconsidine]

@LoudLemur said in Cloudron vs Heimdall:

Is there a good "How to" explaining how to run PHP applications (or similar) on the LAMP application?

Because the range of applications that could be installed is large, I'm not sure it's easy to write a guide. But in overview :

• install a LAMP app from the AppStore as normal
• in the app dashboard (gear icon top right of app tile), use the File Manager to upload the files from the source app you want to add, probably into /app/data/public
• unpack if uploaded in zip formats
• FOLLOW APP_SPECIFIC INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS
  • including to use File Manager (or possibly Terminal) to edit any config files
• re(start) the LAMP app
• once app is running, delete zip files uploaded

[LoudLemur]

@timconsidine said in Cloudron vs Heimdall:

@LoudLemur said in Cloudron vs Heimdall:

Is there a good "How to" explaining how to run PHP applications (or similar) on the LAMP application?

Because the range of applications that could be installed is large, I'm not sure it's easy to write a guide. But in overview :

• install a LAMP app from the AppStore as normal
• in the app dashboard (gear icon top right of app tile), use the File Manager to upload the files from the source app you want to add, probably into /app/data/public
• unpack if uploaded in zip formats
• FOLLOW APP_SPECIFIC INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS
  • including to use File Manager (or possibly Terminal) to edit any config files
• re(start) the LAMP app
• once app is running, delete zip files uploaded

Thanks, that doesn't look too much to try.

Maybe we could create a thread/list of applications which have been tried on Cloudron's LAMP application and which ran well...