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Hey all,

we would be really happy to see Wiki.js - which is an Open Source project - to be available on the cloudron.io platform. For us this would be one "killer app". ^^

From wiki.js.org:

An open source, modern and powerful wiki app built on Node.js, Git and Markdown.

Amongst other considerations this is exactly what we demand from a modern wiki engine. We evaluated various solutions during the last couple of months and this seems to be exactly what we are looking for. A great alternative seems to be bookstack.

According to their Github project site the project is quite active, maintained and seems to have a solid user base.
And they offer ready to go docker images, too.

So long!

https://nodered.org/

https://ipfs.io/

Parabol is a "Free online agile retrospective meeting tool".

These kind of tools could be very helpful during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Alternatives:

• Postfacto
• Remote Retro
• Retrospected

Homepage: https://www.parabol.co
Project: https://github.com/ParabolInc
Docker: https://github.com/ParabolInc/parabol/tree/master/docker

Retrospected is a retrospective board.

Alternatives:

• Parabol
• Remoteretro
• Postfacto

Website: https://www.retrospected.com/
Project: https://github.com/antoinejaussoin/retro-board
Docker: https://github.com/antoinejaussoin/retro-board/tree/develop/k8s

@A-Former-User said in HumHub - social network software:

@nebulon this looks like a good choice, did anyone look into it?

We've been using it in production since a couple of years now. Currently our instance runs on a shared webspace at Uberspace7.

Originally our main goal was to create some kind of a basecamp or starting point for all of our concerns. As an example we created a space (topic) for each of our projects. Everything related to a project is linked and lives there and serves as a project hub. Very much everything like repos, wikis, external resources, briefings, documents, discussions can be found in such a space. It used to work very sufficient for our needs.

Basically and to some extent we used to use it in a similar manner like one would use Atlassian Confluence. But I'd say that is just one use case. It's a little jack of all trades in its own field but not a specialized application that does one thing very well - IMHO of course.

@scooke said in HumHub - social network software:

Anyway, visually it hearkens back to groupware from ages ago, but it looks pretty handy. And not to slow either.

Yes.

https://github.com/mickael-kerjean/nuage

@yusf
The professional edition supports extended LDAP (Mapping), but basic LDAP authentication seems to be available in the community edition, too.

I attached a recent screenshot from the backend of our instance.

Would it be possible to test authentication over LDAP by using the LDAP backend provided by Cloudron?

@infogulch Never had my hands on Trilium Notes. But judging from the screenshots doesn't it offer concepts used in these kind of roaming tools like the Zettelkasten Methode which was heavily used by Niklas Luhmann et al.? Btw. Anytype is on my personal watchlist, too.

@yusf I tried out Notion last year but only for a day or so and abandoned it quickly because of data protection and privacy concerns. My first impression was that it had a very specific characteristic in its appereance and handling. What I really liked about it was that it felt quite calm on the surface hiding and simplificating the complexity of its possibilities. In a way it reminded me of Things.app on macOS.
Yesterday I found Focalboard by Mattermost. I don't know if it fills the gap but at least it promotes itself as an open source, self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana. @thetomester13 created an app request already. ^^

I am also on a long lasting journey on the search for the appropriate toolset that fits my way of thinking. Currently I use multiple tools. Most of the time I start out with a mindmap. Although it is not perfect Mindnode does quite a good job in the fields of mindmapping in regards of UX. It lets me quickly visualize my thoughts and doesn't get into the way too much in that process which helps me to slip into some kind of a flow state. Sometimes I wish we had neural interfaces to project all of these interconnected thought that seem to pop of the ground like mushrooms while surfing through an idea.

The problem with a mindmap is that it is neither interactive after it has been created nor can it be connected or extended by ongoing research in a comfortable/elegant way. Maybe the roaming tools mentioned by @soup could fill that gap. I'll get my hands on these asap. What do you think about Trilium? Does it fit in that kind of category?

@girish Will Baserow be available as an official app on the appstore?

@infogulch Never had my hands on Trilium Notes. But judging from the screenshots doesn't it offer concepts used in these kind of roaming tools like the Zettelkasten Methode which was heavily used by Niklas Luhmann et al.? Btw. Anytype is on my personal watchlist, too.

@yusf I tried out Notion last year but only for a day or so and abandoned it quickly because of data protection and privacy concerns. My first impression was that it had a very specific characteristic in its appereance and handling. What I really liked about it was that it felt quite calm on the surface hiding and simplificating the complexity of its possibilities. In a way it reminded me of Things.app on macOS.
Yesterday I found Focalboard by Mattermost. I don't know if it fills the gap but at least it promotes itself as an open source, self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana. @thetomester13 created an app request already. ^^

I am also on a long lasting journey on the search for the appropriate toolset that fits my way of thinking. Currently I use multiple tools. Most of the time I start out with a mindmap. Although it is not perfect Mindnode does quite a good job in the fields of mindmapping in regards of UX. It lets me quickly visualize my thoughts and doesn't get into the way too much in that process which helps me to slip into some kind of a flow state. Sometimes I wish we had neural interfaces to project all of these interconnected thought that seem to pop of the ground like mushrooms while surfing through an idea.

The problem with a mindmap is that it is neither interactive after it has been created nor can it be connected or extended by ongoing research in a comfortable/elegant way. Maybe the roaming tools mentioned by @soup could fill that gap. I'll get my hands on these asap. What do you think about Trilium? Does it fit in that kind of category?

Yesterday I stumbled upon this tool in a reddit post while searching for FOSS alternatives to Notion. On my research I found out that I am not alone according to this post on the Clouron forums from OP @yusf. ^^

From the first looks it appears to be a mixture of Monday, Airtable, Zenkit, Baserow and as it was also mentioned by @thetomester13 they try to tackle Notion, too. Since it is a product made by Mattermost it seems to be obvious that they try to bring concepts of commercially successful products to the FOSS world. That's what they did with Slack in the past at least. IMHO Focalboard looks quite polished on the surface. I'm really interested to get my hands on this one rather sooner than later.

A couple of days ago they merged a pull request to offer a Docker container: #76

Hello all,

I found this nice Graphviz editor.

@Github, @Demo

Cheers

@atrilahiji I had the same thought a couple of months ago and did a tiny research. What I found is this post dating back to 2018: Request for Architectural Modification - Decentralized and Federated Gitea

@mehdi
This my friend is a good point, thank you for pulling me out of the tunnel. lol

@girish Yes, thank you very much, I was just about to write excact the same thing.

Maybe related - since we use inwx.de as our domain registrar we have to use the Manualoption as a DNS setting. The disadvantage is we can't use a wildcard certificate in that scenario. For the most part I assume that's why we ran into the rate limit issue in first place. Maybe I'm wrong but I guess at a certain point there were just too many requests at once since there existed many orphaned certs inside ~/yellowtent/boxdata/certs from previous installed apps since 2018.

• Wouldn't it be an improvement for Manualsetups to delete the corresponding certs upon deinstallation of an app?
• Would it be possible to include inwx.de as an automated DNS provider? They offer an API.
• For the time being which registrar would be your personal recommendation for a automated DNS provider?

@girish I see.
I'm going to restore the server again. As soon as it's finished I'm going to open a ticket as you requested. ^^

@girish said in Certificate rate limit hit during restore process?:

Thanks for the detailed steps.

@ctrl said in Certificate rate limit hit during restore process?:

Open https://IP_ADDR and accept the self-signed certificate to finish setup.
Restore via backup config file: Getting certificate of my.example.tld ...
Remove old certs from /home/yellowtent/boxdata/certs

Can you clarify this part. Where do you see 'Getting certificate of my.xxx` ? I assume you want through the Restore UI correct? Meaning in the Setup page, there is a Restore link at the bottom and then you uploaded the backup config. Did you see the message during the restore process. It should only say "Downloading backup.." . https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#restore-cloudron has some screenshots of that restore link.

The message appears right after I start the restore process and Cloudron notifies about the downloading process of the backup. To create a screenshot I repeated the restoring process right now. This time nginx crashed during the restore process right after the aforementioned message regarding the certs. I attached some screenshots in order. Nevertheless I am able to load the login page by force-reloading the my.xxx domain which still uses the selfsigned cert.

Finally, why did you remove old certs from /home/yellowtent/boxdata/certs. Or are you referring to removing the old certs of obsolete domains?

I just removed orphaned certs belonging to apps I tested in the past. I let all certs in place which are still associated to existing subdomains/apps we use.

@girish I logged all steps trying to reproduce the results:

0. Install OS: Ubuntu 20.04@Hetzner Cloud instance
1. Update OS: 20.04.2
2. Restore Cloudron:

cd ~/; mkdir tmp; cd $_
wget https://cloudron.io/cloudron-setup
chmod +x cloudron-setup
./cloudron-setup --provider generic --version 6.1.2
reboot

3. Open https://IP_ADDR and accept the self-signed certificate to finish setup.
4. Restore via backup config file: Getting certificate of my.example.tld ...
5. Remove old certs from /home/yellowtent/boxdata/certs
6. Tell Firefox to forget all related sites
7. Login to my.example.tld ... (Browser still uses selfsigned cert)
8. Notification center:

Failed to new certs of my.example.tld: Failed to send new order. Expecting 201, got 429 "{\n \"type\": \"urn:ietf:params:acme:error:rateLimited\",\n \"detail\": \"Error creating new order :: too many certificates already issued for exact set of domains: my.example.tld: see https://letsencrypt.org/docs/rate-limits/\",\n \"status\": 429\n}". Renewal will be retried in 12 hours

9. Status of Apps: running||restoring (status seems to vary between restore attempts)
   9.1 If status is restoring: Restore process fails due to cert/nginx error
   9.2 If status is running: Opening an app redirects to https://my.example.tld (Browser still uses selfsigned cert)
10. Reboot from within UI
11. Can't reconnect to UI: Cloudron is offline. Reconnecting.
12. journalctl -u nginx -a

Mar 08 15:17:24 hostname systemd[1]: Starting nginx - high performance web server...
Mar 08 15:17:24 hostname nginx[503]: nginx: [emerg] cannot load certificate "/home/yellowtent/boxdata/certs/example.tld.host.cert": BIO_new_file() failed (SSL: error:02001002:s>
Mar 08 15:17:24 hostname systemd[1]: nginx.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Mar 08 15:17:24 hostname systemd[1]: nginx.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Mar 08 15:17:24 hostname systemd[1]: Failed to start nginx - high performance web server.
Mar 08 15:17:25 hostname systemd[1]: nginx.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 1.
Mar 08 15:17:25 hostname systemd[1]: Stopped nginx - high performance web server.
Mar 08 15:17:25 hostname systemd[1]: Starting nginx - high performance web server...

13. cat /var/log/nginx/error.log

2021/03/08 14:45:54 [notice] 25650#25650: signal process started
2021/03/08 14:48:33 [notice] 996#996: signal process started
2021/03/08 14:52:30 [emerg] 1174#1174: cannot load certificate "/home/yellowtent/boxdata/certs/example.tld.host.cert": BIO_new_file() failed (SSL: error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such file or directory:fopen('/home/yellowtent/boxdata/certs/example.tld.host.cert','r') error:2006D080:BIO routines:BIO_new_file:no such file)