Hi all! dgtlmoon from changedetection.io / https://github.com/dgtlmoon/changedetection.io here

I can say that we've added about 1200 lines of automated tests and fixed a whole bunch of bugs, the most recent release is even more solid than previous releases

@svtx if you can not use such strong language I would probably appreciate it

Of course if it turns out the app is overall entering some instable state as to not be useful anymore for longer, then I guess instead we should maybe remove the package itself.

This is completely untrue, I can prove this by the fact that theres 28,300+ stars on github and only a bug reported about once a week, there is a LOT of users, plus all of our paid accounts, it is now very stable

I would like to remind people that it's better to be productive when complaining than just complaining - it's nice if people can write exactly what is the wrong and what their settings were instead of just saying "its a piece of SH...T", this is not mature opensource community behaviour in that respect

however, please be calm, and remember that it is free opensource software and sometimes mistakes happen, its only a couple of guys writing the software for you to enjoy for free

there is nothing unstable about it, and I can assure you that for every bug that is reported there is several automated tests added so that it doesnt ever happen again

If there are any issues, PLEASE report them on https://github.com/dgtlmoon/changedetection.io instead of just saying saying "it's a POS" I would really appreciate it.

Thank you - and please be sure that you're on the latest version 0.50.38

@james @svtx @p44 Hello from changedetection - please - if you can be productive rather than just complaining, please let me know what those bugs were? we had a lot of refactors and fixes in the last week but everything should be fixed, we added 1200+ lines of automated tests, and our github issue queue is VERY quiet

"unstable state" i dont think so, we just had to drop a few updates around the notifications, but again, NO ONE here has bothered to explain exactly what's their issue - all should be fixed now

Setup Details

• Cloudron version: 0.0.0
• app version: 0.50.38

https://github.com/dgtlmoon/changedetection.io/issues/3591

Issue description

It's looking like a user of your service is using an old version or not fully updated version even tho the version numbers line up to a bug fixed version...

Can someone shoot me a tarball of what you are running? How do I verify as a publisher that cloudron's version is deployed correctly and not resulting in people in the cloudron forum calling my software a "POS" ?

@p44 On the topic of issues in changedetection.io, I want to illustrate to you how insanely difficult it is to even get accurate issue/bug reporting from the general public, something that should take an hour to fix often takes over a week because people

• Dont follow the issue template
• Give misleading, wrong, often completely made up information
• Say they followed the instructions when they didnt
• Miss out critical things from the issue report - like the exact (except for password/host etc) info from the notification URLs

And then I come here and people calling it "A piece of shit", and yet, people cant even fill in a issue report with complete information

infuriating

@p44 I'm trying to track down this issue https://github.com/dgtlmoon/changedetection.io/issues/3591 is it possible that cloudron has deployed old code or incomplete code? I wonder if theres a way for publishers (me) to know if the code you're running on Cloudron is accurate to my release and not making the publisher look bad?

@andreasdueren said in Mark Change Detection app as unstable?:

Well, yeah.

Maybe it's time to fork it and make it usable lol

This is what you said, now please own it, since you seem to already have formed an idea of what can be improved, why don't you share it? Or now that you've pulled up by the admin suddenly everyone is like "oh yeah its ok i was just referring to this thing i cant explain" when you even basically agreed with someone else calling the software a "POS"

cost me too much time of my life
Well, yeah.
Maybe it's time to fork it and make it usable lol

@james @nebulon can we delete this whole forum thread? it's looked incredibly bad, disrespectful and unprofessional for all involved

@james secondly, this kind of negative absolutely unprofessional and negative experience in this forum thread is exactly the reason why a lot of people dont go near opensource, it is exactly these kinds of attitudes that are still following forum threads for decades now and should be absolutely NOT tollerated

thank you

@p44 @james @andreasdueren @svtx https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/14500/cloudron-deploying-wrong-old-code-is-it-possible

@girish https://git.cloudron.io/packages/changedetection-app/ so I see, thats a builder script and you are building from pip

RUN pip3 install --target=/app/code/changedetection.io/dependencies -r requirements.txt && \
    pip3 install --target=/app/code/changedetection.io/dependencies playwright~=1.51.0

I will check our pip release

@girish our version from pip does not show the bug that the user has reported at https://github.com/dgtlmoon/changedetection.io/issues/3591

changedetection.io                       0.50.38

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Application: changedetection.io
Subject: ChangeDetection Notificatie - https://changedetection.io/time.php
From: "changedetection.io" <me@localhost>
To: me@localhost
Message-ID: <176218308420.466622.10852343540499566928@localhost>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2025 16:18:04 +0100

https://changedetection.io/time.php heeft een wijziging:
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(changed) 1762182602.7904
(into) 1762183083.0323
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the notification email is perfect, no weird placeholders

it's still possible we have the bug on our side and something is missing from the issue report, but this part is heavily automated tests (1000+ lines checking this)

CD_VERSION=0.50.38; curl -sL https://github.com/dgtlmoon/changedetection.io/archive/refs/tags/${CD_VERSION}.tar.gz | tar --strip-components 1 -xvzf -

changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/package.json
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/proxy-example.jpg
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/restock-overview.png
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/restock-settings.png
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/scheduler.png
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/screenshot-diff.png
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/screenshot-notifications.png
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/screenshot.png
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/visualselector-anim.gif
changedetection.io-0.50.38/docs/web-page-change-conditions.png
changedetection.io-0.50.38/requirements.txt
changedetection.io-0.50.38/runtime.txt
changedetection.io-0.50.38/setup.py
...

then

$ ./changedetection.py -d /tmp
2025-11-03 16:23:38.541 | DEBUG    | changedetectionio.content_fetchers:<module>:62 - Falling back to selenium as fetcher
2025-11-03 16:23:38.625 | DEBUG    | changedetectionio.queue_handlers:__init__:53 - RecheckPriorityQueue initialized successfully
2025-11-03 16:23:38.625 | DEBUG    | changedetectionio.queue_handlers:__init__:358 - NotificationQueue initialized successfully
2025-11-03 16:23:38.626 | INFO     | changedetectionio.flask_app:<module>:90 - System locale default is ('en_AU', 'UTF-8')
2025-11-03 16:23:38.626 | SUCCESS  | changedetectionio:main:131 - changedetection.io version 0.50.38 starting.
...

then I send a test SMTP notification by following https://changedetection.io/time.php (plaintext document)

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Application: changedetection.io
Subject: ChangeDetection Notificatie - https://changedetection.io/time.php
From: "changedetection.io" <me@localhost>
To: me@localhost
Message-ID: <176218348959.467872.404048423206685716@localhost>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2025 16:24:49 +0100

https://changedetection.io/time.php heeft een wijziging:
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(changed) 1762183083.0323
(into) 1762183488.7614
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everything works perfect