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Good evening, just update to 9.0.8.
Easy and smooth upgrade as usual, and huge compliments for the new UI and all the new functions. Everything is clearer than ever (and I'm here from day one).
Now I ask myself: what more is needed to happily selfhost?
Thank you guys!

Hello there,
I am also testing both openarchiver (OA) and mailarchiver (MA) using docker-compose.
Here is my feedback:

• UI: both software are similar but the preview page in OA seems nicer to me and has a thread functionality on the sidebar wich is quite useful;
• SEARCH: MA has better search functionalities;
• EXPORT: export in MA is great as you can search and export results in one shot, while OA seems to consent only one message at a time download;
• SOFTWARE: MA is based on ASP.NET Core 8 MVC application wich does not seems nice to me;
• STORAGE: in OA messages are stored in folder as .eml files, while in MA all is in the postgresdb;
• ACTIVITY: both MA and OA seems very active, but I've contacted OA for partenering and to have some clarification on encryption, but still no answers (note: just writed friday morning...).

Hello everybody,
I am not sure this what you are looking for and is in early stage but this project looks promising:
https://fossbilling.org

Hello,
of course cloudron guys just do a great and very active job so I won't say more on this point.
I am afraid that if participants are more than 3, or you have a really powerful server or you have no real alternative than big services (not necessarily proprietary or big corporations).
BUT up to this number I tried in the past kopano meet (wich worked good, is very nice and is available in cloudron since a very long time), and then switched to nextcloud talk wich is just working great for video/voice calls:

• user based or public access (using link)
• chat always available
• screen sharing on the fly
• phone app very well integrated with a great push notification flow

@subven Hello, I use vaultwarden for passwords and floccus + nextcloud-bookmarks to sync my bookmarks on different browsers (floccus has an extension for all of them).

• https://floccus.org
• https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/bookmarks

@bazinga you are welcome.

The Cloudron's built.in SMTP server is great and I use it for my daily mail traffic but there is no graph and visual history of sent mails.

I use Postal as an extension of smtp2go for, at least, those reasons:

• I always prefer self-hosted open-source software when possible, particularly when there is sensistive data like mail and e-mail adresses
• I started with smtp2go to have a high delivaribility guarantee for my clients, but now my postal server is warmed enough and seems to be well accepted;
• the free plan include only five day log which is a little shorter, in postal you can set retention as needed;
• there is no preview of messages while in postal you can see plain text, html, and attachment; this is useful for tests and monitoring of sent content;
• you can create several companies and servers with different settings and credentials;
• you can track activity (open and click);
• you can give access to clients to the reports.

@lucidfox thank you for signaling useplunk.com this is quite interesting and the free plan is generous.

The library is also usable in nextcloud:
https://github.com/nextcloud/whiteboard/blob/main/README.md

I use it (not in cloudron) with a simple docker-compose:

services:
  whiteboard:
    image: ghcr.io/nextcloud-releases/whiteboard
    restart: always
#    ports:
#      - 3002:3002
    environment:
      - NEXTCLOUD_URL=https://your.nextcloud.url
      - JWT_SECRET_KEY=KEYsome-strong-one

Sorry I have a similar problem on a cloudron 7.4.3 on ubuntu 20, a pending task is blocking everything (backup, update, uninstall, ...) on my secondary cloudron instance:

• I have a blue notice saying: Platform status / Starting services, this can take a while
• I have the only app active in: Configuring (Queued) - Queued
  • the cancel task redX button is not responding
  • Crash Recovery buttons are not clickable

https://my.cloudron/api/v1/tasks/12960?access_token=XXXXXXmytoken

    {
      "id": "12960",
      "type": "app",
      "percent": 1,
      "message": "Waiting for Cloudron to initialize",
      "error": {
        "message": "Task was stopped because the server was restarted or crashed",
        "code": "crashed"
      },
      "active": false,
      "pending": true,
      "creationTime": "2023-12-17T21:39:50.000Z",
      "result": null,
      "ts": "2023-12-17T21:39:50.000Z",
      "success": false
    },

• I've tried a systemctl check as BrutalBirdie

root@my:~# systemctl status box-task-12960.service
Unit box-task-12960.service could not be found.

• https://mycloudron/api/v1/tasks/12960/stop?access_token=XXXXXXmytoken

Cannot GET /api/v1/tasks/12960/stop

But no way to kill the pending task. Do you have any suggestions?

tail -f /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/box.log
Box POST /api/v1/tasks/12967/stop 409 Conflict task is not active 91.551 ms - 61
2024-01-04T11:30:41.308Z box:locker Lock unreleased platform_start

Thank you and best regards.

Good morning,
for clients transactional e-mail I use smtp2go.

https://www.smtp2go.com/pricing.

I also use, on a docker server, Postal wich works great and is free.

https://github.com/postalserver

@girish thank you as always, I reached you out on support@cloudron.io.
Best regards

@joseph openarchiver use IMAP too and has also a similar way to connect to other providers.

https://docs.openarchiver.com/user-guides/email-providers.

mailarchiver can connect to Microsoft 365 mail accounts via Microsoft Graph API.

Both OA and MA can import mbox/eml files.
OA can also import PST, at least according to the docs.

@Kubernetes I agree with you that MA seems much more robust and the developement is also quite active (while I still do not have a feedback from OA):

https://github.com/s1t5/mail-archiver/releases

My doubt is mainly about:

• all is in the PG database;
• ASP.NETCore8 MVC

While the first one is not that terrible, I am uneasy with an ASP.NETCore product, what do you think about this framework?