@fbartels
true obviously EAS is EOL, not death.
But I see more future and open standards/ease of use in jmap than in EAS.
I imagine that cloudron could build a webmail and calendar front end with jmap proxy with the compatibility to all current calendar and contact apps on the store because jmap can just be a proxy it doesn't need to be integrated into the mail server.
Apache James complete mail stack use it as a proxy is not integrated directly into the mail server, it acts as a gateway from the internal network that speaks in IMAP and external that use rest API.

Jmap is just been a standard for 2 years or so, and it's used by big providers for their proprietary webmail, and it's easy to develop UI on top of it, because it's just rest API.
there is a really good comment on rainloop issue for supporting jmap

Neat! This would allow for researching databreaches, your husbands sidepiece phone number, info on yourself, and so much more.

What a well deserved tool to be added to cloudron.

@atridad thank you for your work on this.
Installed as a custom app very sweetly (I amended the latest version pulled down to 2.1.0)

To anyone keen to use this, it is possible as a custom app pending official addition to the store.

@fbartels If it's not already familiar, I'm finding remotix.com useful to solve some of these feature needs. Obvs not all, bit also looking into opsi.org.

@robi said in webhook - lightweight incoming webhook server to run shell commands:

why not use N8N instead? much more featureful and UI.

I ran up a quick n8n webhook
Easier than I thought and works well.
The only thing I really understand what to do with webhook payload in a n8n workflow is put it in a database or Baserow (which I have on cloudron) or now also SeaTable (which I have on Caprover).

Not sure n8n is up to the scripting of how the payload needs to be parsed and manipulated and disposed of. But maybe the function node is adequate.

Need to think it through and make a plan.

At least I have 2 options now, n8n and @fbartels' webhook app.
Thanks again.

@ruihildt you're right, I only saw the website post and added github link later.

@jdaviescoates Thanks, yes, much better option. Need something simple.

AFAIK @robi is correct, you’re rewarded for basically hosting a node. I have a node setup and have transitioned most of my searches over to Presearch. I’m addition to Node Rewards, you also get around 0.10 PRE per search up to 10/day. It would be pretty awesome for be able to setup a node in Cloudron!

@ericdrgn said in Maubot (Matrix) - Bots:

do you have any thoughts or attempts at this yourself?

Yes. I currently run Maubot in my LAN (Dockerized on a Pi), not on a VPS. It works quite well. As it's just another Matrix client there's no need for Maubot itself to be publicly accessible.

Since I manage to run it locally I've no real incentive to try and get it to run on Cloudron infrastructure.

It'd be nice to have a private reddit like app to bubble up things.

@scooke said in Chaskiq - website and social live chat including chat-bot and video calls:

@jagan Thanks for the reply. My point is to not to try to convince anyone to not use it, I'm just curious how it is actually used by those who employ it.

1.) Info such as hours, etc., could/should be available on a website, no?
2) I've seen this used for very open-ended generic questions.
3) This sounds perfect, but most of the time when I've needed help the Help seemed to act like it was gonna take a lot of time, in which case chat wasn't an option because I'd be sitting there for awhile. I guess one experience I've had with chat that was helpful was with a bank, trying to clear a flagged transaction. But they needed lots of my regular account info and it felt sketchy giving that over a chat! I suppose that it "worked" because in the end the transaction was cleared (it was me), but I really didn't feel comfortable. Another time was with NameCheap about a transfer-in of a domain, but they needed me to be logged into the site at the same time as the chat. Good thing I was at my computer, and not just my phone, as that wouldn't have gone well.
4) Yeah, I really don't like the blackhole nature of the phone help!

Most places use this forum-style approach for help. It seems like the best mix of quickly getting info back and forth, and getting a solution.

I guess the other scenario i am trying to imagine is with a one-person, or small-ish startup. If their main Help is chat, who is going to be the one to monitor that Chat? And if it's one person, or few, doesn't Chat help sessions take away alot of time from the usually-scheduled work?

I'm asking all this because I'm thinking of including it in some of my stuff, in general, but just can't picture how it will truly function and work out.

I like this discussion...to chime in it appears there is a mix of two conflicting perspectives:
1- Your technical insight combined with curiosity on how the solution provides value
2- Your personal exp and preference regarding similar solutions

Devils advocate: I have worked in pub/private orgs of varying sizes supporting physical & digital products/services for more than decade and can 100+1% argue that customers/users want, like & use "chat" as an option more and more...

Your points are more subjective than objective. But for the sake of argument: From my personal Ex: "I have used and prefer chat over a call or email..."

Users (Not yours & not all of them.. but enough of them) like and prefer the experience. Especially for Subscription/Premium based support - its almost basically expected now

To add more value/substance to my stance: I went to Drift's HYPERGROWTH event in 2018, they are one of the leaders in the Conversational Marketing space. They recently were acknowledged by Gartner and are currently valued at $1 billion

My 2 cents are worth 2 just likes yours but someone somewhere is making $ supporting someone via chat

Chaskiq has a good amount of momentum & the "market" for the service is thriving 💙

@timconsidine still works. I was the reason for the last update after a conversation with the inventor. (tied to the version of PGP/GPG and TLS)

Any further progress on this @rmdes ?

@jdaviescoates but um, see eg

https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/106994689369344479

@timconsidine Oh. What are your concerns about Freescout?