OpenAI & Nextcloud Performance
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@apesorguk interesting, thanks.
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No problem, and please don't get me wrong cloudron is great in a lot of areas we use apps. But Nextcloud, unfortunately, doesn't look like it. And we need a stable nextcloud server.
@apesorguk said in OpenAI & Nextcloud Performance:
And we need a stable nextcloud server.
I think lots of us using Cloudron Nextcloud fine (albeit without all the nice features AIO has) but fair enough
Sounds to me though that this might be something @staff ought to take a closer look at
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@apesorguk Have you tuning up using workers in Apache PHP Forks in Cloudron?
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@necrevistonnezr said in OpenAI:
Well, AIO is now their „official install method“: https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one
Interesting.
It does have lots of great additional features. I'd like the Cloudron Nextcloud package to be this All in One package, if possible.
@jdaviescoates said in OpenAI & Nextcloud Performance:
@necrevistonnezr said in OpenAI:
Well, AIO is now their „official install method“: https://github.com/nextcloud/all-in-one
Interesting.
It does have lots of great additional features. I'd like the Cloudron Nextcloud package to be this All in One package, if possible.
Upvote if you haven't done yet: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/59540
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AFAIK, AIO is really just another deployment method. Fundamentally, the software being deployed is the same. Maybe the Cloudron nextcloud package can learn from the Dockerfile upstream (for example, upstream uses php fpm as opposed to apache mod php). From my past of moving these stacks back and forth, these tech stack changes produce no performance benefits in real life .
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Well, one main difference is that the apps and add-ons included in AIO are already installed, configured, compatible, and working together (or at least should be...). They're also updated in unison.
If you look at support requests in this subforum, they very often are rooted in an incompatibility of add-on- /app-versions and the Nextcloud main software. Also, installing and configuring such add-ons can be a major PITA. -
AFAIK, AIO is really just another deployment method. Fundamentally, the software being deployed is the same. Maybe the Cloudron nextcloud package can learn from the Dockerfile upstream (for example, upstream uses php fpm as opposed to apache mod php). From my past of moving these stacks back and forth, these tech stack changes produce no performance benefits in real life .
@joseph said in OpenAI & Nextcloud Performance:
AIO is really just another deployment method
Not really.
The clue is in the name "All in one".
Some of the key things what is has that we simply just don't have at all yet on Cloudron, but that we'd basically all like to have are:
- Full text search
- High performance back end for files
- High performance back end for talk
- Backend server for whiteboard app
Exactly how these things get added to Cloudron I leave to Cloudron @staff but they should definitely all be added IMHO.
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yes fair, it's a full bundle. Unfortunately, using AIO itself is out of question because it is a Docker manager of it's own . (and from quick grepping none of those nextcloud apps/plugins are pinned ) . I gave it a qiuck try but was unable to get past the setup. It kept complaining my firewall is closed, I don't even have a firewall on DO . Didn't investigate much further.
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yes fair, it's a full bundle. Unfortunately, using AIO itself is out of question because it is a Docker manager of it's own . (and from quick grepping none of those nextcloud apps/plugins are pinned ) . I gave it a qiuck try but was unable to get past the setup. It kept complaining my firewall is closed, I don't even have a firewall on DO . Didn't investigate much further.
