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issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.

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  • d19dotcaD Offline
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    #11

    Attached is an image, as you can see this is severely impacting the ability for the strata owners to communicate to anyone on the list which goes to a Gmail account. (I originally tried to uploaded a larger screenshot showing more lines but the forum software prevented it, saying it was too large.)
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    Dustin Dauncey
    www.d19.ca

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    • robiR Offline
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      Are there any mail gateway routers? So you can use different services with known good deliverability?

      Conscious tech

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        @avatar1024 was this resolved?

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          I can't tell as I stopped using Cloudron mailing list a while ago because of this. But clearly others (e.g. @d19dotca) seem to still have the problem so looks like it hasn't been solved.

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          • avatar1024A avatar1024

            I can't tell as I stopped using Cloudron mailing list a while ago because of this. But clearly others (e.g. @d19dotca) seem to still have the problem so looks like it hasn't been solved.

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            #15

            @avatar1024 said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

            I stopped using Cloudron mailing list a while ago because of this

            Out of interest, what you using instead? 🙂

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jamesJ james

              @avatar1024 was this resolved?

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              #16

              @james said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

              @avatar1024 was this resolved?

              No, this hasn’t been resolved. This still needs to be improved in Cloudron mailing lists, please.

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              Dustin Dauncey
              www.d19.ca

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @avatar1024 said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                I stopped using Cloudron mailing list a while ago because of this

                Out of interest, what you using instead? 🙂

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                @jdaviescoates said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                @avatar1024 said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                I stopped using Cloudron mailing list a while ago because of this

                Out of interest, what you using instead? 🙂

                I think they were using the workaround of creating a mailbox and logging into roundcube to setup mail forwarding, so it kind of acts like the Cloudron mailing list in a way, but seems to be more reliable and doesn’t trigger Gmail’s “mass mail” protections.

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                Dustin Dauncey
                www.d19.ca

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                • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                  @jdaviescoates said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                  @avatar1024 said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                  I stopped using Cloudron mailing list a while ago because of this

                  Out of interest, what you using instead? 🙂

                  I think they were using the workaround of creating a mailbox and logging into roundcube to setup mail forwarding, so it kind of acts like the Cloudron mailing list in a way, but seems to be more reliable and doesn’t trigger Gmail’s “mass mail” protections.

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                  #18

                  @d19dotca said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                  I think they were using the workaround of creating a mailbox and logging into roundcube to setup mail forwarding, so it kind of acts like the Cloudron mailing list in a way, but seems to be more reliable and doesn’t trigger Gmail’s “mass mail” protections.

                  That's correct and also started using Lismonk for larger distribution lists.

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                    #19

                    Just to add, I've hit this too.

                    I've got a small Cloudron mailing list that includes a bunch of Gmail address. In the past I think it's been sending to them fine, but the most recent send to the list (which was sent from a Google Workspace email account that is also on the list) generated this error:

                    Upstream error: 421 4.7.28 Gmail has detected this message exceeded its quota for sending 4.7.28 messages with the same Message-ID. To best protect our users, the 4.7.28 message has been temporarily rejected. For more information, go to 4.7.28 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 a640c23a62f3a-afcdd03a4b4si214278366b.769 - gsmtp

                    I guess I'll have to resort to sending these messages out another way too 😞

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                    • avatar1024A avatar1024

                      @d19dotca said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                      I think they were using the workaround of creating a mailbox and logging into roundcube to setup mail forwarding, so it kind of acts like the Cloudron mailing list in a way, but seems to be more reliable and doesn’t trigger Gmail’s “mass mail” protections.

                      That's correct and also started using Lismonk for larger distribution lists.

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                      @avatar1024 said in issue with email delivery going through Cloudron mailing lists.:

                      also started using Lismonk for larger distribution lists.

                      Is that what you're still doing? Do those somehow magically get through to Gmail addresses OK?

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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