Rotating backup destinations please!
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I just purchased a Dedirock backup server linked from Lowendtalk, and am going to set it up to use as another backup destination. However, it just occured to me that when I go into my Cloudron to enter this new backup destination that I will lose all the info for my current backup destination. I mean, I have it saved, but it will be a small pain to have to keep entering the current details, use it for a month, then enter the new VPS details for the month, then revert back, etc.
Is it possible for us to save many different backup destinations please? I realize that means extra coding on the backup for Cloudron to recognize the backup destination when a restore is needed, and that this could cause complications for users who lose track of where a backup from 2 months ago went to. But I, for one, would love to be able to save at least 4 different destinations, along with their different protocols, and then just use a pull-down menu to choose where this week's full backup goes to.. Thanks! Tschuss!
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I just purchased a Dedirock backup server linked from Lowendtalk, and am going to set it up to use as another backup destination. However, it just occured to me that when I go into my Cloudron to enter this new backup destination that I will lose all the info for my current backup destination. I mean, I have it saved, but it will be a small pain to have to keep entering the current details, use it for a month, then enter the new VPS details for the month, then revert back, etc.
Is it possible for us to save many different backup destinations please? I realize that means extra coding on the backup for Cloudron to recognize the backup destination when a restore is needed, and that this could cause complications for users who lose track of where a backup from 2 months ago went to. But I, for one, would love to be able to save at least 4 different destinations, along with their different protocols, and then just use a pull-down menu to choose where this week's full backup goes to.. Thanks! Tschuss!
@scooke said in Rotating backup destinations please!:
But I, for one, would love to be able to save at least 4 different destinations, along with their different protocols, and then just use a pull-down menu to choose where this week's full backup goes to
Yup, we have basically something like this now for the coming release. You can set up one or more backup destinations. Then, a dropdown to choose which is the default . But you will have to change the value in this dropdown every week manually though.
A screenshot from my test installation:
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@scooke said in Rotating backup destinations please!:
But I, for one, would love to be able to save at least 4 different destinations, along with their different protocols, and then just use a pull-down menu to choose where this week's full backup goes to
Yup, we have basically something like this now for the coming release. You can set up one or more backup destinations. Then, a dropdown to choose which is the default . But you will have to change the value in this dropdown every week manually though.
A screenshot from my test installation:
@girish I was hoping we'd be able to do stuff like
- daily backups to Default backup location
plus
- weekly backups to location 2
and
- monthly backuos to location 3
And similar configs. The screenshot you've shared looks like great progress and improvement on what we've got now, but any plans for this sort of stuff too?
Thanks!
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@girish can we specify destinations per app? For instance, Nextcloud to my locally attached SSD, other apps to 3rd party like BackBlaze?
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@girish can we specify destinations per app? For instance, Nextcloud to my locally attached SSD, other apps to 3rd party like BackBlaze?
@humptydumpty hope so! (if not now, in the future) as that is indeed another common use case for why we all want multiple backup destinations.
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@scooke said in Rotating backup destinations please!:
But I, for one, would love to be able to save at least 4 different destinations, along with their different protocols, and then just use a pull-down menu to choose where this week's full backup goes to
Yup, we have basically something like this now for the coming release. You can set up one or more backup destinations. Then, a dropdown to choose which is the default . But you will have to change the value in this dropdown every week manually though.
A screenshot from my test installation:
@girish I know this is the sort of detail I'd likely tell someone else that it is their responsibility, but including the date of the last usage in that list would be very helpful. That way I can see at a glance when it's time to choose the next destination after x amount of time.
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@girish can we specify destinations per app? For instance, Nextcloud to my locally attached SSD, other apps to 3rd party like BackBlaze?
@humptydumpty we can already do this as long as you are fine not including NC in the total Cloudron backup. At least that's what I've done. I don't the four apps with the most data and just back them up individually. I guess you mean it would be nice for the total Cloudron backup to automatically backup these apps to X and those apps to Y, right?
A life lived in fear is a life half-lived
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@humptydumpty we can already do this as long as you are fine not including NC in the total Cloudron backup. At least that's what I've done. I don't the four apps with the most data and just back them up individually. I guess you mean it would be nice for the total Cloudron backup to automatically backup these apps to X and those apps to Y, right?
@scooke said in Rotating backup destinations please!:
automatically backup these apps to X and those apps to Y, right?
Exactly! Currently, I have NC auto updates & backups completely disabled. I have to "skip" backing up the app when manually updating. I have no other choice because backups never complete if uploading to an S3 bucket. It would be awesome to have things done automagically the Cloudron way again.
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@girish I was hoping we'd be able to do stuff like
- daily backups to Default backup location
plus
- weekly backups to location 2
and
- monthly backuos to location 3
And similar configs. The screenshot you've shared looks like great progress and improvement on what we've got now, but any plans for this sort of stuff too?
Thanks!
@jdaviescoates the backup schedule and retention is per target, yes . It's not obvious from the screenshot but they are individually configurable from the menu in the "..." .
Internally, each "backup" also tracks which target it belongs to. This way deleting any backup targets doesn't randomly invalidate all the existing backups (will remove just the backups that had that target associated) .
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@jdaviescoates the backup schedule and retention is per target, yes . It's not obvious from the screenshot but they are individually configurable from the menu in the "..." .
Internally, each "backup" also tracks which target it belongs to. This way deleting any backup targets doesn't randomly invalidate all the existing backups (will remove just the backups that had that target associated) .
@girish great, thanks, I look forward to having a play once v9 comes out!
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@girish can we specify destinations per app? For instance, Nextcloud to my locally attached SSD, other apps to 3rd party like BackBlaze?
@humptydumpty said in Rotating backup destinations please!:
@girish can we specify destinations per app? For instance, Nextcloud to my locally attached SSD, other apps to 3rd party like BackBlaze?
This has not been implemented yet. But the plan is that each Backup Target will have an include/exclude list of apps. That way you can have apps backing up to specific targets.
The automatic backup enable/disable flag of app will also go away. It will move to the Backup Target UI. You can just exclude the app from all the targets to have it not backed up ...
