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v9 Backups : multiple locations

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    wrote last edited by timconsidine
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    Tentatively getting to grips with new features of v9, specifically multiple backup locations, which is a totally great new feature 👏

    1. is there a docs section specifically about multiple locations ?
      checked but didn't see anything - maybe still being added

    2. pre-v9, backups were a blocking process, no other operations like app installs could be done during a backup run. Is this still the case with v9?

    3. extending #2, presumably it's necessary to take care to ensure the schedules of each backup location are non-conflicting ? or v9 is so awesome that backups are separate processes which can run to 2 locations concurrently ?? (whoa)

    4. seeking clarification about docs on Hetzner Storage Box

    • CIFS :

    We recommend using SSHFS for Hetzner Storage Box since it is much faster and efficient storage wise compared to CIFS. When using Hetzner Storage Box with CIFS, the Remote Directory is /backup for the main account. For sub accounts, the Remote Directory is /subaccount.

    • SSHFS :

    When using Hetzner Storage Box, the Remote Directory is /home for the main account. We have found sub accounts to be unreliable with SSHFS. We recommend using CIFS instead if you want to use subaccounts.

    • net result is that advice is to use SSHFS for backups to main account and CIFS for sub accounts ?
      If so, I'd suggest the docs state that explicitly
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      1. There is no doc yet, hopefully the docs will get updated by the end of the year.

      2. Right, app backups don't block app operations anymore. App backups are now totally in background

      3. Concurrent backups are fine. Just have to make sure the locations don't conflict i.e storageprovider+target+prefix must not eventually be the exact same location. If you have different prefixes, that is fine too. It is also fine if schedules conflict.

      4. I think if SSHFS works, I would go with that. It is much faster since we have optimized code paths for it.

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      • timconsidineT timconsidine

        Tentatively getting to grips with new features of v9, specifically multiple backup locations, which is a totally great new feature 👏

        1. is there a docs section specifically about multiple locations ?
          checked but didn't see anything - maybe still being added

        2. pre-v9, backups were a blocking process, no other operations like app installs could be done during a backup run. Is this still the case with v9?

        3. extending #2, presumably it's necessary to take care to ensure the schedules of each backup location are non-conflicting ? or v9 is so awesome that backups are separate processes which can run to 2 locations concurrently ?? (whoa)

        4. seeking clarification about docs on Hetzner Storage Box

        • CIFS :

        We recommend using SSHFS for Hetzner Storage Box since it is much faster and efficient storage wise compared to CIFS. When using Hetzner Storage Box with CIFS, the Remote Directory is /backup for the main account. For sub accounts, the Remote Directory is /subaccount.

        • SSHFS :

        When using Hetzner Storage Box, the Remote Directory is /home for the main account. We have found sub accounts to be unreliable with SSHFS. We recommend using CIFS instead if you want to use subaccounts.

        • net result is that advice is to use SSHFS for backups to main account and CIFS for sub accounts ?
          If so, I'd suggest the docs state that explicitly
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        wrote last edited by
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        Hello @timconsidine

        @timconsidine said in v9 Backups : multiple locations:

        net result is that advice is to use SSHFS for backups to main account and CIFS for sub accounts ?
        If so, I'd suggest the docs state that explicitly

        I'd say SSHFS for Hetzner Storage Boxes for both main- and sub-accounts.
        But, let me get back to you on that after I did some research and validation.

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