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ZoneMinder - state-of-the-art video surveillance software system

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  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

    @timconsidine This is going faster than I expected 😊👌 I would love to test it, but I don't know how to install custom apps on my Cloudron.

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    @humptydumpty let me get it to beta, and I will show you easy way

    Solved a lot of issues this morning but still working on some more

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      Update on packaging :

      • got a camera mostly working
      • but some fairly fundamental issues about how Zoneminder handles runtime issues with hardcoding to read-only locations
      • working to resolve them
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      • timconsidineT timconsidine

        Update on packaging :

        • got a camera mostly working
        • but some fairly fundamental issues about how Zoneminder handles runtime issues with hardcoding to read-only locations
        • working to resolve them
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        @timconsidine 👌I bought an additional cam to play with so I'm ready for testing when you are!

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          without hijacking the thread, I recently came accross this which I think could be considered as a potential alternative: https://www.scrypted.app/ and though it might be worth mentioning. while the core app is open-source and dockerizable, the NVR plug-in is not and subject to a subscription, as far as I can see.

          Possibly this could make for another app in the wishlist, should there be interest.

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          • T Teiluj

            without hijacking the thread, I recently came accross this which I think could be considered as a potential alternative: https://www.scrypted.app/ and though it might be worth mentioning. while the core app is open-source and dockerizable, the NVR plug-in is not and subject to a subscription, as far as I can see.

            Possibly this could make for another app in the wishlist, should there be interest.

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            wrote on last edited by humptydumpty
            #18

            @Neiluj it looks pretty cool especially if you're into home automation - it's worthy to be added on the wishlist! Go for it! I didn't see any pricing info though. Are you sure the NVR feature is sub-based? NVM. Scrypted NVR License $ 40 per year

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            • timconsidineT timconsidine

              Update on packaging :

              • got a camera mostly working
              • but some fairly fundamental issues about how Zoneminder handles runtime issues with hardcoding to read-only locations
              • working to resolve them
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              @timconsidine any progress on this?

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              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                @timconsidine any progress on this?

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                @humptydumpty I’ve been ill last 3 months so not really any progress, sorry. Slowly improving, so I will try to pick it up again.
                Would like it for my own deployment so have not abandoned it

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                • timconsidineT timconsidine

                  @humptydumpty I’ve been ill last 3 months so not really any progress, sorry. Slowly improving, so I will try to pick it up again.
                  Would like it for my own deployment so have not abandoned it

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                  @timconsidine Ah, same here although not as long as you. I hope you feel better. I thought I'd tackle some of the things that were on the backburner during the holidays but nope, life has other plans indeed 🤷

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                    I'm picking Zoneminder back up today to try to overcome the last packaging issues.

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                      #23

                      whoop whoop 🍾 🍾
                      @humptydumpty Resolved the deployment issues

                      Got a camera working
                      After struggling with firewall config/networking, I have even got Zoneminder ("ZM") running on my Cloudron VPS (in cloud naturally) but viewing a camera installed at the office behind the firewall.

                      More testing and config exploration needed : I am no ZM expert.

                      Be prepared for head-scratching on camera configs if you don't know them.

                      Be ready to deal with ZM filling your cloudron free disk space, and ensuring you prevent that, not just recover from it.

                      Git repo : https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-zoneminder
                      Docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-zoneminder:v2.0.4 (being uploaded)
                      Custom app installer ccai.appx.uk updated

                      Last deployment had an ALPHA warning. This is now well above BETA, maybe even a release candidate.

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                      • timconsidineT timconsidine

                        whoop whoop 🍾 🍾
                        @humptydumpty Resolved the deployment issues

                        Got a camera working
                        After struggling with firewall config/networking, I have even got Zoneminder ("ZM") running on my Cloudron VPS (in cloud naturally) but viewing a camera installed at the office behind the firewall.

                        More testing and config exploration needed : I am no ZM expert.

                        Be prepared for head-scratching on camera configs if you don't know them.

                        Be ready to deal with ZM filling your cloudron free disk space, and ensuring you prevent that, not just recover from it.

                        Git repo : https://git.cloudron.io/timconsidine/cloudron-zoneminder
                        Docker image : tcmbp132021/cloudron-zoneminder:v2.0.4 (being uploaded)
                        Custom app installer ccai.appx.uk updated

                        Last deployment had an ALPHA warning. This is now well above BETA, maybe even a release candidate.

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                        @timconsidine said in ZoneMinder - state-of-the-art video surveillance software system:

                        Be ready to deal with ZM filling your cloudron free disk space, and ensuring you prevent that, not just recover from it.

                        Congrats on the breakthrough! Currently, I'm using BlueIris (Windows based app) and it also has too many options. IIRC, it took me a full working day to get it set up properly. As for backups and disk space, I'm definitely not ready for that yet. I'll need to add a new backup destination to an external drive to replace my S3 BackBlaze since it fails to upload almost every other day. Speaking of local storage, I wonder if I can add more than one and have one dedicated to ZM so it doesn't kill the server.

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                        • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                          @timconsidine said in ZoneMinder - state-of-the-art video surveillance software system:

                          Be ready to deal with ZM filling your cloudron free disk space, and ensuring you prevent that, not just recover from it.

                          Congrats on the breakthrough! Currently, I'm using BlueIris (Windows based app) and it also has too many options. IIRC, it took me a full working day to get it set up properly. As for backups and disk space, I'm definitely not ready for that yet. I'll need to add a new backup destination to an external drive to replace my S3 BackBlaze since it fails to upload almost every other day. Speaking of local storage, I wonder if I can add more than one and have one dedicated to ZM so it doesn't kill the server.

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                          @humptydumpty I have some notes that I put in QUICKSTART.md in /app/code.

                          It's not a complete guide, just a quick start for basic config. But it does have some links to other proper guides.

                          Storage : yep, I need to make a strategy. Currently my cameras back up via their NVR to a large Hetzner Storage Box. I am thinking to add some scripts to do similar, automatically moving ZM files off to Hetzner Storage Box based on time or size. And first step, find out what ZM provides to manage all this.

                          Will update on my approach/experience as it builds.

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