Cloudron vs Homelabos
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Yeah. Another option is using something like Rancher to manage a kubernetes cluster but again the same level of ease of use and integration just isn't there without significate up-front time investment.
And yeah I honestly prefer Cloudron on prem. Most VPS services have costs for storage and dedicated CPU that dont seem worth it to me when I can spend 800 bucks on a server and make that money back in a short amount of time.
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@atrilahiji I guess it depends on how good your on premises connection is and how many off premises users you have
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@jdaviescoates Yeah true. I suppose if its being used for a business it might be worth using a VPS for reliability. I'm thinking for more of a homelab perspective I guess.
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@jdaviescoates said in Cloudron vs Homelabos:
When was this implemented? I've been asking for this for years!?
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@robi https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2823/referral-program/ . I think those days you were active on the chat and probably missed the forum announcements
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Points taken for Cloudron being better. But that's precisely why it feels bad not to back a truly open-source project which needs all our help we can give, as opposed to yet another closed-source project that encourages vendor lock-in.
FWIW, HomeLabOS uses Docker and Traefik so the approach is very simple and it supports about 50 apps in all. The main developer is quite responsive and they have a good community going at their Zulip chat group.
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@nilesh I have advised homelab as an open source alt but as much as I admire homelabos its only on 0.7 & its lead developer does have a fulltime role as CTO @ https://grownetics.co/ (they do have amazing tech btw
both homelab & grownetics!!) where as cloudron does have 2 fulltime devs and is on 6.x
(Have been a cloudron user for many moons so please excuse my bias)
In terms of supporting open source - might as well donate directly to the downstream projects if you want the most impact -
I would rather pitch something like Yunohost as a truly open-source alternative. That being said, I still prefer how Cloudron is set up and I don't mind the cost at the moment. It if becomes prohibitive I might consider something else, but I'm good rn.
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@atrilahiji As I said, it's not about the cost. I too am happy to pay the cost. But given two alternatives, I want to support a FOSS project with my money, rather than yet another closed-source one. Supporting a closed-source project starves the FOSS alternative for users/mindshare/resources etc.
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@girish Have you considered releasing Cloudron code under an open-source license with, say, a 6 months delay behind the latest one? So, my money at least eventually improves the open-source version? A license like that would seal the deal for me in a heartbeat.
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@nilesh said in Cloudron vs Homelabos:
open-source license with, say, a 6 months delay behind the latest one
That is an excellent idea that I personally had not considered. I do not know of any open-source project which has this model. Do you ?
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@mehdi MariaDB follows this as per Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_models_for_open-source_software#Delayed_open-sourcing
It's even okay if the delayed open-source release is restricted to individuals and not corporates - to protect the revenue stream. But we must find a way to direct our resources towards improving public and community goods.
