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  • girishG Offline
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    girish
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    @Nicolas Cloudron apps are deployed in readonly containers and you thus cannot install code/new packages in existing apps. Can you explain why deploying it in it's own container would not work in your case? AFAIK, That's the correct way to deploy elasticsearch.

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      Perhaps my understanding is erroneous, but I was under the impression that apps in containers aren't able to interact with each other on the server and so these things would have to be in the same container to engage with each other appropriately.
      However, as I review the documentation using Elasticsearch with the forum software I'd be attaching to it, I realize that as long as the container is able to access the port necessary it should be fine - in which case, I guess I'll just wait patiently for an Elasticsearch app to be available!

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        @Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.

        If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:

        • use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
        • alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on elastic.domain.com and then your app can use it directly.
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        • girishG girish

          @Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.

          If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:

          • use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
          • alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on elastic.domain.com and then your app can use it directly.
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          #5

          @girish Getting kind of excited when I read this. Does this mean that Full Text Search for the Cloudron e-mail server could then be in the cards, too?

          https://github.com/filiphanes/fts-elastic

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            I think dovecot has to use lucene/sole because the elastic search is only in dovecot enterprise.

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            • girishG girish

              I think dovecot has to use lucene/sole because the elastic search is only in dovecot enterprise.

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              @girish https://github.com/atkinsj/fts-elasticsearch 🙂

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              • girishG girish

                I think dovecot has to use lucene/sole because the elastic search is only in dovecot enterprise.

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                @girish I found this here. Dovecot Enterprise have developed their own FTS solution that comes with the commercial version of Dovecot.
                All the other referenced solutions are working with the FOSS version of Dovecot, so it says.

                https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/fts/

                I keep pushing and hoping....:-)

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                • girishG girish

                  @Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.

                  If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:

                  • use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
                  • alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on elastic.domain.com and then your app can use it directly.
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                  @girish said in Elasticsearch:

                  Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app.

                  Hey Grish - this sounds good, and exciting! I noticed that Elasticsearch has been on the roadmap for some time and am wondering if this is something we're likely to see in the Cloudron 6.x series, or if it's much further down the road yet?

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                    Can't wait to try full text search on Nextcloud via Elasticsearch, I have 20 GB of PDF and I want to be able to search inside those files, not just file names 🙂

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                    • girishG girish

                      @Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.

                      If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:

                      • use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
                      • alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on elastic.domain.com and then your app can use it directly.
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                      Hey @girish - is this still on the roadmap for some time in the future? If so, do you have an idea of when it's likely to be set up?

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                      • NicolasN Nicolas

                        Hey @girish - is this still on the roadmap for some time in the future? If so, do you have an idea of when it's likely to be set up?

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                        @nicolas I'm not sure but I think @staff opted to just go for Solr instead and that Elastic Search isn't currently on the roadmap.

                        It would still good to have both though, as lots of apps seem only to integrate with Elastic.

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          I think part of the issue too is elasticsearch is incredibly demanding resource-wise

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                            I think part of the issue too is elasticsearch is incredibly demanding resource-wise

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                            @atrilahiji I know that Elasticsearch is stopped developing, from opensource into enterprise. And do we develop Elasticsearch from the latest opensource version?

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                            • girishG girish

                              @Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app. This will help apps like Nextcloud etc have document search as well. I will move this port to Feature Requests since it's a platform level change.

                              If you want to use this right away, there are two approaches:

                              • use an external elastic search (i.e install it on a separate server and have the LAMP app access that)
                              • alternately, create a cloudron package and install elastic search as an app. You can install this package on elastic.domain.com and then your app can use it directly.
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                              @girish said in Elasticsearch:

                              @Nicolas Indeed, current plan is to implement Elastic search as an addon and not as an app.

                              Might be time to revisit that.

                              Elasticsearch is open source, again
                              https://www.elastic.co/blog/elasticsearch-is-open-source-again

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                Still dreaming about that... 🙂

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                                  Uhh, I'd rather see any more lightweight option instead.

                                  Conscious tech

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                                    Uhh, I'd rather see any more lightweight option instead.

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                                    @robi Unfortunately that's the only full text search provider that's supported by Nextcloud…

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                                    • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                      @robi Unfortunately that's the only full text search provider that's supported by Nextcloud…

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                                      @andreasdueren welp it's a large community, perhaps someone can be interested in making a plugin for meilisearch or similar

                                      Conscious tech

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                                        Since this looked to be unlikely to be included into cloudron, I packaged it into a custom app for myself because I need it for Nextcloud. This app will expose Elasticsearch only locally, for other apps to use. Let me know if anyone wants to help me test it.

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                                        • andreasduerenA andreasdueren

                                          Since this looked to be unlikely to be included into cloudron, I packaged it into a custom app for myself because I need it for Nextcloud. This app will expose Elasticsearch only locally, for other apps to use. Let me know if anyone wants to help me test it.

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                                          @andreasdueren nice, happy to give it a try, which version did you pack?

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