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Authentication support?

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    @nebulon and when going to https://meet.uniteddiversity.coop/ any anonymous user can still create a room and be granted moderator rights on the room they create. Looks like something isn't quite right.

    I'm still on Cloudron 7.0.4 is LDAP Jitsi only available on 7.1 or something?

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    @jdaviescoates you are right, the jitsi app package version 0.2.0 is only available for Cloudrons running 7.1.2

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    • nebulonN nebulon

      @jdaviescoates you are right, the jitsi app package version 0.2.0 is only available for Cloudrons running 7.1.2

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      @nebulon Interesting phenomenon: there is a folder in Prosody that cannot be accessed via the Web Filemanger. In the terminal, this is not a problem.
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        @nebulon Interesting phenomenon: there is a folder in Prosody that cannot be accessed via the Web Filemanger. In the terminal, this is not a problem.
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        @luckow that seems to be a filemanager client side bug. Thanks for reporting.

        Regardless of that, I do wonder if that folder needs to be there in the first place. There is nothing which should be changed or touched by the admin without risking breaking, so I think I will move most of that, if not all to /run

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @nebulon I just installed a fresh install to see/ test LDAP support but when installing it just talks about "Dahboard visibility" not "User management" like other LDAP enabled apps:

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          @jdaviescoates How did you get the "Dashboard visibility" option? I just tried a fresh install on 7.1.2 but am presented with the default "user management" option. If I continue with the Jitsi install, the app does not require a login.

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            @jdaviescoates How did you get the "Dashboard visibility" option? I just tried a fresh install on 7.1.2 but am presented with the default "user management" option. If I continue with the Jitsi install, the app does not require a login.

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            To be clear for everyone: Since jitsi app package version 0.1.0 did not have any sso/ldap integration, everyone was seeing the dashboard visibility. Once on v0.2.0 this changes, since it is integrated. App package version 0.2.0 is only available for Cloudron v7.1.2 though, which is only available as a pre-release so far. So if you want to try jitsi v0.2.0, you have to manually update your Cloudron first.

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              To further update on this, there seems to be some issue in v0.2.0 with the auth, not always being enabled. I am investigating now.

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              • H hakunamatata

                @jdaviescoates How did you get the "Dashboard visibility" option? I just tried a fresh install on 7.1.2 but am presented with the default "user management" option. If I continue with the Jitsi install, the app does not require a login.

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                @hakunamatata said in Authentication support?:

                @jdaviescoates How did you get the "Dashboard visibility" option? I just tried a fresh install on 7.1.2 but am presented with the default "user management" option. If I continue with the Jitsi install, the app does not require a login.

                I'm still on 7.0.4 so I'm also still on the 0.1.0 version of the app package, that's why.

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  There is some confusion about the guest mode in jitsi and it interferes with the ldap auth. I am not sure yet why and what the behavior should be, but I published a new package v0.3.0 which is ldap always on now. Given, that this will not allow guests to join a conference, this is not the final intended status.

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                  • nebulonN nebulon

                    There is some confusion about the guest mode in jitsi and it interferes with the ldap auth. I am not sure yet why and what the behavior should be, but I published a new package v0.3.0 which is ldap always on now. Given, that this will not allow guests to join a conference, this is not the final intended status.

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                    @nebulon I just installed 0.3.0 and it seems that now only internal meetings between registered users of my cloudron are possible. How can I invite external guests so that they can join the meeting without being a cloudron user? If I had to choose between an open jitsi where everybody can start a meeting and a closed one only for registered cloudron users I'd like to have the open version like 0.1.0 back please 🙂

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                    • jan.reinhardtJ jan.reinhardt

                      @nebulon I just installed 0.3.0 and it seems that now only internal meetings between registered users of my cloudron are possible. How can I invite external guests so that they can join the meeting without being a cloudron user? If I had to choose between an open jitsi where everybody can start a meeting and a closed one only for registered cloudron users I'd like to have the open version like 0.1.0 back please 🙂

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                      @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

                      • public (open to all / without authentication).
                      • internal (only ldap users)
                      • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
                      • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

                      From my point of view, we should start with internal/public. Then from there we see what is possible with some kind of "switch" in an env file.
                      In the end: if we need different jitsi settings to satisfy different use cases, we need to install them separately. By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

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                      • luckowL luckow

                        @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

                        • public (open to all / without authentication).
                        • internal (only ldap users)
                        • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
                        • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

                        From my point of view, we should start with internal/public. Then from there we see what is possible with some kind of "switch" in an env file.
                        In the end: if we need different jitsi settings to satisfy different use cases, we need to install them separately. By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

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                        @luckow said in Authentication support?:

                        From my point of view, we should start with internal/public.

                        Exactly. +1

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • luckowL luckow

                          @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

                          • public (open to all / without authentication).
                          • internal (only ldap users)
                          • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
                          • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

                          From my point of view, we should start with internal/public. Then from there we see what is possible with some kind of "switch" in an env file.
                          In the end: if we need different jitsi settings to satisfy different use cases, we need to install them separately. By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

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                          @luckow said in Authentication support?:

                          @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

                          • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)

                          That ressembles much as my point of view too, for what would be primary needs to start with.

                          By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

                          Yep, and AFACS that app works pretty well.

                          BTW, may I put a double Kudos! Here as well as for the recent 7.1 version work from our super folks @girish and @nebulon which are among the best software engineers I've seen and worked with online in my 20 and dust on the 'information superhighway' career lol 😆
                          Thanks for your dedication guys, really.😎

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                          • micmcM micmc

                            @luckow said in Authentication support?:

                            @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

                            • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)

                            That ressembles much as my point of view too, for what would be primary needs to start with.

                            By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

                            Yep, and AFACS that app works pretty well.

                            BTW, may I put a double Kudos! Here as well as for the recent 7.1 version work from our super folks @girish and @nebulon which are among the best software engineers I've seen and worked with online in my 20 and dust on the 'information superhighway' career lol 😆
                            Thanks for your dedication guys, really.😎

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                            @micmc I totally agree that internal/public would be perfect. But if this is not yet possible imho public is much better than internal because I can use the public jitsi server immediatly to work with my clients (this is what I did over the last two weeks and it performed great). The 'internal only' version means that I have to use Zoom etc. again...

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                            • jan.reinhardtJ jan.reinhardt

                              @micmc I totally agree that internal/public would be perfect. But if this is not yet possible imho public is much better than internal because I can use the public jitsi server immediatly to work with my clients (this is what I did over the last two weeks and it performed great). The 'internal only' version means that I have to use Zoom etc. again...

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                              @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

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                                For some reason the LDAP authentication isn't working for me. I tried a fresh install of package v.0.2.0 and v0.3.0 on my server (v7.1.2) but my Jitsi instance is still public.😕

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                                • luckowL luckow

                                  @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

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                                  @luckow 👍

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                                  • H hakunamatata

                                    For some reason the LDAP authentication isn't working for me. I tried a fresh install of package v.0.2.0 and v0.3.0 on my server (v7.1.2) but my Jitsi instance is still public.😕

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                                    @hakunamatata have tried to actually start a meeting? With version 0.3 anyone can still access the page where you can create a meeting but when you actually join the meeting it asks for authentication.

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                                      Thanks for all the feedback here. We are aware of the auth issues, there is some missing piece in the jitsi configs which we try to track down to support auth + guest mode.

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                                      • avatar1024A avatar1024

                                        @hakunamatata have tried to actually start a meeting? With version 0.3 anyone can still access the page where you can create a meeting but when you actually join the meeting it asks for authentication.

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                                        @avatar1024 This was the missing link! Yes I am prompted for authentication after I start a meeting. Thanks for the clarification!

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                                          So the latest package v0.4.0 now has LDAP enabled and fixes the guest mode. Each conference can be started by an authenticated user and then guests can join.

                                          Optional LDAP will probably come as well.

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