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Authentication support?

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  • luckowL luckow

    @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

    • public (open to all / without authentication).
    • internal (only ldap users)
    • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
    • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

    From my point of view, we should start with internal/public. Then from there we see what is possible with some kind of "switch" in an env file.
    In the end: if we need different jitsi settings to satisfy different use cases, we need to install them separately. By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

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    @luckow said in Authentication support?:

    From my point of view, we should start with internal/public.

    Exactly. +1

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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    • luckowL luckow

      @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

      • public (open to all / without authentication).
      • internal (only ldap users)
      • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
      • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

      From my point of view, we should start with internal/public. Then from there we see what is possible with some kind of "switch" in an env file.
      In the end: if we need different jitsi settings to satisfy different use cases, we need to install them separately. By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

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      micmc
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      #30

      @luckow said in Authentication support?:

      @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

      • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)

      That ressembles much as my point of view too, for what would be primary needs to start with.

      By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

      Yep, and AFACS that app works pretty well.

      BTW, may I put a double Kudos! Here as well as for the recent 7.1 version work from our super folks @girish and @nebulon which are among the best software engineers I've seen and worked with online in my 20 and dust on the 'information superhighway' career lol 😆
      Thanks for your dedication guys, really.😎

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      • micmcM micmc

        @luckow said in Authentication support?:

        @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

        • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)

        That ressembles much as my point of view too, for what would be primary needs to start with.

        By the way: the same is true for Greenlight (the BigBlueButton frontend).

        Yep, and AFACS that app works pretty well.

        BTW, may I put a double Kudos! Here as well as for the recent 7.1 version work from our super folks @girish and @nebulon which are among the best software engineers I've seen and worked with online in my 20 and dust on the 'information superhighway' career lol 😆
        Thanks for your dedication guys, really.😎

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        #31

        @micmc I totally agree that internal/public would be perfect. But if this is not yet possible imho public is much better than internal because I can use the public jitsi server immediatly to work with my clients (this is what I did over the last two weeks and it performed great). The 'internal only' version means that I have to use Zoom etc. again...

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        • jan.reinhardtJ jan.reinhardt

          @micmc I totally agree that internal/public would be perfect. But if this is not yet possible imho public is much better than internal because I can use the public jitsi server immediatly to work with my clients (this is what I did over the last two weeks and it performed great). The 'internal only' version means that I have to use Zoom etc. again...

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          @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

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            hakunamatata
            wrote on last edited by
            #33

            For some reason the LDAP authentication isn't working for me. I tried a fresh install of package v.0.2.0 and v0.3.0 on my server (v7.1.2) but my Jitsi instance is still public.😕

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            • luckowL luckow

              @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

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              jan.reinhardt
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              #34

              @luckow 👍

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              • H hakunamatata

                For some reason the LDAP authentication isn't working for me. I tried a fresh install of package v.0.2.0 and v0.3.0 on my server (v7.1.2) but my Jitsi instance is still public.😕

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                avatar1024
                wrote on last edited by avatar1024
                #35

                @hakunamatata have tried to actually start a meeting? With version 0.3 anyone can still access the page where you can create a meeting but when you actually join the meeting it asks for authentication.

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                  nebulon
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #36

                  Thanks for all the feedback here. We are aware of the auth issues, there is some missing piece in the jitsi configs which we try to track down to support auth + guest mode.

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                  • avatar1024A avatar1024

                    @hakunamatata have tried to actually start a meeting? With version 0.3 anyone can still access the page where you can create a meeting but when you actually join the meeting it asks for authentication.

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                    hakunamatata
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                    #37

                    @avatar1024 This was the missing link! Yes I am prompted for authentication after I start a meeting. Thanks for the clarification!

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                      #38

                      So the latest package v0.4.0 now has LDAP enabled and fixes the guest mode. Each conference can be started by an authenticated user and then guests can join.

                      Optional LDAP will probably come as well.

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                      • nebulonN nebulon

                        So the latest package v0.4.0 now has LDAP enabled and fixes the guest mode. Each conference can be started by an authenticated user and then guests can join.

                        Optional LDAP will probably come as well.

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                        @nebulon There appear to be App upgrade issues.

                        From all the Jitsi updates, the app updates into a non responding state.

                        It may be a combo of the fixed port at 10000 and addon changes.

                        This also makes it impossible to have more than one instance installed, if one were to test/troubleshoot ;-/

                        What I found works is uninstalling the app, then reinstalling, but that doesn't help fix the bug of it not upgrading properly.

                        See the Jitsi support email if you want to log in and check things out.

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          @nebulon There appear to be App upgrade issues.

                          From all the Jitsi updates, the app updates into a non responding state.

                          It may be a combo of the fixed port at 10000 and addon changes.

                          This also makes it impossible to have more than one instance installed, if one were to test/troubleshoot ;-/

                          What I found works is uninstalling the app, then reinstalling, but that doesn't help fix the bug of it not upgrading properly.

                          See the Jitsi support email if you want to log in and check things out.

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                          nebulon
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                          @robi unfortunately jitsi as such does not support port changes, so this needs to be possible upstream.

                          For upgrades, as always with unstable apps, we don't care of migration. I can tell you already that likely the next jitsi update today will also require a reinstall. It just makes little sense to deal with config file or data migration while we haven't settled on the storage way yet.

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                          • nebulonN nebulon

                            @robi unfortunately jitsi as such does not support port changes, so this needs to be possible upstream.

                            For upgrades, as always with unstable apps, we don't care of migration. I can tell you already that likely the next jitsi update today will also require a reinstall. It just makes little sense to deal with config file or data migration while we haven't settled on the storage way yet.

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                            robi
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                            #41

                            @nebulon Understood, thanks for the clarification.

                            Conscious tech

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                            • nebulonN nebulon

                              So the latest package v0.4.0 now has LDAP enabled and fixes the guest mode. Each conference can be started by an authenticated user and then guests can join.

                              Optional LDAP will probably come as well.

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                              Aizat
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                              #42

                              @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
                              Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

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                              • AizatA Aizat

                                @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
                                Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

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                                Aizat
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                                #43

                                @Aizat on the other test, I made an App Passwords, and use the password it generated instead of my Cloudron login, and it worked, moderator granted.

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                                  jdaviescoates
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #44

                                  I'm just wondering the opposite.

                                  Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

                                  Or is @luckow suggestion still the best/ only way to achieve that?

                                  @luckow said in Authentication support?:

                                  @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

                                  Or can we now do all the options outlined by @luckow here (and if so, how - if someone tells me, I'll add the details to the currently very sparse docs)

                                  @luckow said in Authentication support?:

                                  @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

                                  • public (open to all / without authentication).
                                  • internal (only ldap users)
                                  • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
                                  • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

                                  Thanks!

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                    I'm just wondering the opposite.

                                    Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

                                    Or is @luckow suggestion still the best/ only way to achieve that?

                                    @luckow said in Authentication support?:

                                    @jan-reinhardt As a quick (dirty) workaround: add a user guest with the password guest to your Cloudron ldap and only allow this user to access your jitsi instance. Tell your clients that they must use guest:guest for authentication.

                                    Or can we now do all the options outlined by @luckow here (and if so, how - if someone tells me, I'll add the details to the currently very sparse docs)

                                    @luckow said in Authentication support?:

                                    @jan-reinhardt As I understand it, there are several options that are not compatible with each other:

                                    • public (open to all / without authentication).
                                    • internal (only ldap users)
                                    • internal/public (only ldap users can initiate a conference, then guests are allowed)
                                    • jwt (token based authentication for e.g. nextcloud, rocket.chat ...).

                                    Thanks!

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                                    robi
                                    wrote on last edited by robi
                                    #45

                                    @jdaviescoates said in Authentication support?:

                                    Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

                                    Yes, just choose to have jitsi manage its own users and it's open by default.

                                    Conscious tech

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                                    • robiR robi

                                      @jdaviescoates said in Authentication support?:

                                      Is it possible to run Jitsi on Cloudron without any authentication? So that anyone can start a room? (I potentially have a client who wants to do this)

                                      Yes, just choose to have jitsi manage its own users and it's open by default.

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                                      jdaviescoates
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #46

                                      @robi cool, thanks figured that might be the case, thanks for confirming! (I probably should've just tried it!)

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • AizatA Aizat

                                        @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
                                        Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

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                                        kk_cloudron
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Aizat said in Authentication support?:

                                        @nebulon I'm still getting the authentication issue, when I use my Cloudron login username, it doesn't authenticate me, and says incorrect pwd or username. Then I tried my Cloudron email, it just connecting...
                                        Do I need to change/add something in the "jitsi-meet-config.js"?

                                        Hello, have you been able to solve this problem? I would like to use the cloudron authentication...

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                                          YurkshireLad
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #48

                                          Is this feature on the roadmap?

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