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How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?

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  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

    When I'm not working I tend to just close my laptop lid.

    When I open it again I have to login to Roundcube again. This is a minor annoyance I want to avoid (Gmail doesn't do this).

    On my first quick search it look like perhaps I need to edit or comment out $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10;

    (e.g. https://billing.hostnox.gr/knowledgebase/55/------Session-invalid-or-expired--Roundcube-or-WHM.html?language=english )

    But no such line is included in /app/data/customconfig.php

    Any ideas?

    I guess I could experiment with higher values than 10, but I basically don't ever want my session to end unless I manually log out.

    Edit: looks like lots of people have this same issue, see also https://issuekiller.com/issues/roundcube/roundcubemail/15073963

    Edit 2: this would seem to suggest it could be related to a MySQL issue:
    https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/upgraded-to-11-30-0-now-roundcube-saying-session-expired-or-is-invalid.212331/post-875951

    Edit 3: sounds like perhaps this PR would fix it https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/pull/7709

    Edit 4: see also https://github.com/emtiu/roundcube-cookielifetime

    Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal 😢 (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

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    @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

    Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal 😢 (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

    I agree. BTW Snappymail is a fork of Rainloop, not of Roundcube.

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    • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

      @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

      Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal 😢 (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

      I agree. BTW Snappymail is a fork of Rainloop, not of Roundcube.

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      @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

      BTW Snappymail is a fork of Rainloop, not of Roundcube.

      Oh yes, thanks for the reminder

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

        @necrevistonnezr thanks, I'll give that a try in the first instance and see how I get on...

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        @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

        @necrevistonnezr thanks, I'll give that a try in the first instance and see how I get on...

        So, I added:

        $rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;
        

        To app/data/customconfig.php

        But it hasn't made any difference at all.

        When I opened my laptop this morning I had to log back in to Roundcube, again.

        Now I'm wondering if I restarted the app (or whether I would've needed to)

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

          @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

          @necrevistonnezr thanks, I'll give that a try in the first instance and see how I get on...

          So, I added:

          $rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;
          

          To app/data/customconfig.php

          But it hasn't made any difference at all.

          When I opened my laptop this morning I had to log back in to Roundcube, again.

          Now I'm wondering if I restarted the app (or whether I would've needed to)

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          @jdaviescoates since this is just php code a restart is not needed. What is needed however is you reloading the application in your browser to make the change reach your session.

          @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

          Gmail doesn't do this

          Gmail is also not a php application. The reason sessions are handled better there is because their user sessions are based on openid connect, which means you get a refresh token with every login, that can (as long as the refresh token is valid) be used to get a session token without the need to perform another login.

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          • fbartelsF fbartels

            @jdaviescoates since this is just php code a restart is not needed. What is needed however is you reloading the application in your browser to make the change reach your session.

            @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

            Gmail doesn't do this

            Gmail is also not a php application. The reason sessions are handled better there is because their user sessions are based on openid connect, which means you get a refresh token with every login, that can (as long as the refresh token is valid) be used to get a session token without the need to perform another login.

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            @fbartels said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

            What is needed however is you reloading the application in your browser to make the change reach your session.

            Thanks. I guess it refreshed when I logged in again this morning. Let's see what happens tomorrow morning...

            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

              @fbartels said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

              What is needed however is you reloading the application in your browser to make the change reach your session.

              Thanks. I guess it refreshed when I logged in again this morning. Let's see what happens tomorrow morning...

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              @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

              Let's see what happens tomorrow morning...

              No change.

              Screenshot from 2022-04-14 10-03-45.png

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                Let's see what happens tomorrow morning...

                No change.

                Screenshot from 2022-04-14 10-03-45.png

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                @jdaviescoates is uBlock Origin blocking any cookies?

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                • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                  @jdaviescoates is uBlock Origin blocking any cookies?

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                  @necrevistonnezr hah, thanks!

                  That's quite likely it I guess.

                  Thought I'd turned uBlock off for all my own domain but I've moved this Roundcube install around a bit so I guess not!

                  Have turned it off now, hopefully that'll help...

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

                    @jdaviescoates
                    According to this (https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/5961) I set

                    $rcmail_config['session lifetime'] = 10080;
                    

                    in app/data/customconfig.php and I’m good for a month or so….

                    In context:
                    (6DD502BF-D052-49FF-9BA9-5080F3F9C588.jpeg

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                    @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                    $rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;

                    If I'm not mistaken, there's a typo in that code. After LIFETIME, the ending ' seems to be something else.

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                    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                      @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                      $rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;

                      If I'm not mistaken, there's a typo in that code. After LIFETIME, the ending ' seems to be something else.

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                      @humptydumpty yeah, when I pasted it in to the terminal it was clear (because of the code highlight) it wasn't correct so I replaced it with a ' - but thanks for pointing that out in case that was the issue 🙂

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                        @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                        $rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;

                        If I'm not mistaken, there's a typo in that code. After LIFETIME, the ending ' seems to be something else.

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                        @humptydumpty said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                        @necrevistonnezr said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                        $rcmail_config['session lifetime‘] = 10080;

                        If I'm not mistaken, there's a typo in that code. After LIFETIME, the ending ' seems to be something else.

                        You‘re right! I had fiddled with that post on the iPhone - quite a hassle. I corrected it now in the post above for future reference.

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                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                          When I'm not working I tend to just close my laptop lid.

                          When I open it again I have to login to Roundcube again. This is a minor annoyance I want to avoid (Gmail doesn't do this).

                          On my first quick search it look like perhaps I need to edit or comment out $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10;

                          (e.g. https://billing.hostnox.gr/knowledgebase/55/------Session-invalid-or-expired--Roundcube-or-WHM.html?language=english )

                          But no such line is included in /app/data/customconfig.php

                          Any ideas?

                          I guess I could experiment with higher values than 10, but I basically don't ever want my session to end unless I manually log out.

                          Edit: looks like lots of people have this same issue, see also https://issuekiller.com/issues/roundcube/roundcubemail/15073963

                          Edit 2: this would seem to suggest it could be related to a MySQL issue:
                          https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/upgraded-to-11-30-0-now-roundcube-saying-session-expired-or-is-invalid.212331/post-875951

                          Edit 3: sounds like perhaps this PR would fix it https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/pull/7709

                          Edit 4: see also https://github.com/emtiu/roundcube-cookielifetime

                          Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal 😢 (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

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                          @jdaviescoates I realise this is not the direction of most replies/solutions, but if the programmatic approach does not deliver, on my Mac I have a utility which responds to triggers like laptop shut and fires off an action. I'm sure Windows has similar. Although the execution action may be a bit brutal (close app).

                          Just a thought.

                          Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                          • timconsidineT timconsidine

                            @jdaviescoates I realise this is not the direction of most replies/solutions, but if the programmatic approach does not deliver, on my Mac I have a utility which responds to triggers like laptop shut and fires off an action. I'm sure Windows has similar. Although the execution action may be a bit brutal (close app).

                            Just a thought.

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                            @timconsidine thanks. I'm on Ubuntu, but probably stuff on here too I could try if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                              @timconsidine thanks. I'm on Ubuntu, but probably stuff on here too I could try if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

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                              @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                              if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

                              Well, turning off uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger hasn't helped at all.

                              I posted an issue on the Roundcube github too and they've just replied saying "this is not supported" and closed it 😞

                              https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/8504

                              So perhaps I'm trying to achieve something which isn't possible yet 😞

                              Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal is makes me sad.

                              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                @jdaviescoates said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                                if my turning off uBlock doesn't help...

                                Well, turning off uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger hasn't helped at all.

                                I posted an issue on the Roundcube github too and they've just replied saying "this is not supported" and closed it 😞

                                https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/issues/8504

                                So perhaps I'm trying to achieve something which isn't possible yet 😞

                                Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal is makes me sad.

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                                #18

                                @jdaviescoates Yeah, Alexander is not very helpful - though you gave him a location for the config that is non-standard and Cloudron specific (/app/data/ something).
                                Again, I use Roundcube everyday on my work computer and the session is kept alive even between reboots with the config described above...
                                Is it browser related (is it Firefox?) - maybe try a different one? A setting that deletes cookies from time to time?

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  When I'm not working I tend to just close my laptop lid.

                                  When I open it again I have to login to Roundcube again. This is a minor annoyance I want to avoid (Gmail doesn't do this).

                                  On my first quick search it look like perhaps I need to edit or comment out $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10;

                                  (e.g. https://billing.hostnox.gr/knowledgebase/55/------Session-invalid-or-expired--Roundcube-or-WHM.html?language=english )

                                  But no such line is included in /app/data/customconfig.php

                                  Any ideas?

                                  I guess I could experiment with higher values than 10, but I basically don't ever want my session to end unless I manually log out.

                                  Edit: looks like lots of people have this same issue, see also https://issuekiller.com/issues/roundcube/roundcubemail/15073963

                                  Edit 2: this would seem to suggest it could be related to a MySQL issue:
                                  https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/upgraded-to-11-30-0-now-roundcube-saying-session-expired-or-is-invalid.212331/post-875951

                                  Edit 3: sounds like perhaps this PR would fix it https://github.com/roundcube/roundcubemail/pull/7709

                                  Edit 4: see also https://github.com/emtiu/roundcube-cookielifetime

                                  Sigh. The state of open source webmail is so abysmal 😢 (I wonder if SnappyMail have fixed this annoying issue...)

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                                  @jdaviescoates Facing same issue.

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                                    @jdaviescoates Facing same issue.

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                                    @alexlixs Can you confirm you are not a bot?

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                                      I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

                                      $config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

                                      It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

                                      Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        I just played around with this again and this seems to be working for me:

                                        $config['session lifetime'] = '10080';

                                        It's unclear if $rcconfig or just $config should be used or if either would work, but the latter, i.e. just $config, appears to be working for me.

                                        Also in previous attempts I was missing the 's around the 10080, and from the formatting of other settings in the customconfig.php I figured I'd try '10080' and then it worked.

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                                        @jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

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                                          @girish said in How to stop Roundcube session ending when I close my laptop lid?:

                                          @jdaviescoates $config is the correct variable name.

                                          Well, for some values, it seems that $rcmail_config is correct…

                                          As said before, for me

                                          $rcmail_config['session_lifetime'] = 10080;
                                          

                                          works?!

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